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From: Vladimir Prus <ghost@cs.msu.su>
To: gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: MI: "^running" issues
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 21:18:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fbpkvi$9uu$1@sea.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.1.20070906085944.01d61e20@localhost>

Fabian Cenedese wrote:

> 
>>> > What commands are actually meaningful to emit while target are
>>> > running
>>> 
>>> A less trivial example is "info break" (to see
>>> what breakpoints were already hit during execution up to now, in case
>>> your "commands" for the breakpoints continue the target).
>>
>>Technically speaking, you don't need async for that -- you can interrupt
>>the target, provide output, and then go on. Making this async will maybe
>>cut some fraction of section from the run time, why do we care?
> 
> I'm working on embedded targets and a multithreaded gdb would help
> for many cases.
> 
> - A lot of times the hardware is controlling a machine or some system
>   that is highly optimized for speed. Any interruption could disturb the
>   process or even throw the whole thing out (Imagine a motor that is
>   running and not stopped because the end position was not detected).
> 
> - The connection to the target can be Ethernet but also a slow SIO.
>   So any communication can take quite some time (for CPUs, not
>   for humans). So it may not be just a fraction of a second.

Do you have a communication channel that can talk with the device
while the program is running? 

> - Even while the target is running it's useful to watch some values.
>   These aren't necessarily process variables that can be read by some
>   other means as a visualisation might do. gdb with its debug info is
>   the only way to get there then. And this is only possible if gdb is
>   responding even while the target is running.

This seems a valid usecase; I can find essentially the same request
in the archive.

- Volodya



  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-09-06 19:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-04 12:53 Vladimir Prus
2007-09-05  5:24 ` Nick Roberts
2007-09-05  5:39   ` Vladimir Prus
2007-09-05  6:25     ` Nick Roberts
2007-09-05 17:27     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-05 18:42       ` Vladimir Prus
2007-09-06  6:46         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-06  7:20           ` Vladimir Prus
2007-09-06  8:12             ` Fabian Cenedese
2007-09-06  8:24               ` Mark Kettenis
2007-09-06 11:39                 ` Nick Roberts
2007-09-06 21:18               ` Vladimir Prus [this message]
2007-09-06 14:38             ` Bob Rossi
2007-09-06 15:06               ` Vladimir Prus
2007-09-06 19:34             ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-06 19:38               ` Vladimir Prus
2007-09-07  9:04                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-07  9:15                   ` Nick Roberts
2007-09-07 10:59                     ` Vladimir Prus
2007-09-07 18:06                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-07 18:18                         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-09-07 18:24                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-08  0:30                             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-09-08  3:45                           ` Nick Roberts
2007-09-08  7:21                             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-09-09 20:10                       ` Nick Roberts
2007-09-07  8:11             ` Nick Roberts
2007-09-06 15:03         ` Jim Blandy
2007-09-06 18:08         ` Jim Ingham
2007-09-06 18:34           ` Vladimir Prus
2007-09-06 18:41             ` Jim Ingham
2007-09-06 18:48               ` Vladimir Prus
2007-09-07  5:54                 ` André Pönitz

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