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From: Michael Snyder <msnyder@vmware.com>
To: Greg Law <glaw@undo-software.com>
Cc: Marc Khouzam <marc.khouzam@ericsson.com>,
	  'Hui Zhu' <teawater@gmail.com>,
	 "'gdb@sourceware.org'" <gdb@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [FYI] tutorial for process record and reverse debugging
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 02:01:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AE3AF4F.5010001@vmware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AE34766.9060305@undo-software.com>

Greg Law wrote:
> Marc Khouzam wrote:
>>
>>> [...]
>>>> Or do you imagine it being the default?
>>>>
>>> FWIW, early versions of UndoDB operated in "Marc-mode".  We changed
>>> it because replay mode and record are quite different, particularly
>>> w.r.t. to the program's interaction with the outside world.
>>> "Silent" transition from replay to record mode could be quite
>>> confusing/surprising.
>> In cases where the program does interact with the outside world, I
>> agree that "auto-mode" could be confusing.  In fact, "record mode" 
>> may not be the one we want in this case either.  For instance, in 
>> some cases I may want to re-execute instructions that affect the
>> outside world, even if I'm gone backwards.  In this case I would want
>> to use the recorded  data to go backwards, but never to go forward
>> (never use "replay mode").
> 
> I'm not completely sure of the behaviour of process record here, but
> UndoDB in replay mode is completely "neutered", in that the results of
> all system calls are 'synthesised'.  So if, say, in record mode your
> program unlinks a file, then in replay mode the fact the filename is no
> longer present on the filesystem doesn't matter - we don't really do an 
> unlink, we just replay the results of whatever unlink returned when in 
> record mode.

It's the same for process record.



  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-25  1:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-17 23:48 Michael Snyder
2009-10-19 12:36 ` Hui Zhu
2009-10-19 12:57 ` Marc Khouzam
2009-10-19 13:06   ` Hui Zhu
2009-10-19 13:20     ` Marc Khouzam
2009-10-19 16:35       ` Hui Zhu
2009-10-20  0:59         ` Michael Snyder
2009-10-19 18:24       ` Michael Snyder
2009-10-20  6:44         ` Marc Khouzam
2009-10-20 21:01           ` Michael Snyder
2009-10-21  5:16             ` Greg Law
2009-10-21 15:40               ` Marc Khouzam
2009-10-24 19:29                 ` Greg Law
2009-10-25  2:01                   ` Michael Snyder [this message]
2009-10-26  3:05                   ` Marc Khouzam
2009-10-26  9:59                 ` Jakob Engblom
2009-10-22  6:31               ` Michael Snyder
2009-10-21 15:06             ` Marc Khouzam
2009-10-26  7:54             ` Hui Zhu
2009-10-26  8:06             ` Jakob Engblom
2009-10-26  7:58       ` Jakob Engblom
2009-10-26 19:10         ` Michael Snyder
2009-10-27 18:32           ` Jakob Engblom
2009-10-19 18:23   ` Michael Snyder
2009-10-26  3:12     ` Hui Zhu
2009-10-26  8:02     ` Jakob Engblom

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