From: Michael Snyder <msnyder@vmware.com>
To: Greg Law <glaw@undo-software.com>
Cc: Marc Khouzam <marc.khouzam@ericsson.com>,
'Hui Zhu' <teawater@gmail.com>,
"'gdb@sourceware.org'" <gdb@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [FYI] tutorial for process record and reverse debugging
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 06:31:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4ADF29E3.3040308@vmware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4ADE2502.5060201@undo-software.com>
Greg Law wrote:
> Michael Snyder wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> 3) I'm in replay mode, possibly in the middle of the recording,
>>>> and I want to switch to record mode. Now there are several
>>>> branching possibilities: Do I want to:
>>>>
>>>> a) Go to the end and start appending to the existing log?
>>> I can understand someone wanting this.
>>>
>>>> b) Truncate the existing log at the point where I am, and
>>>> start appending to the prefix?
>>> I never thought of this case. I see now that for non-deterministic
>>> executions this could have value.
>> Not just that, though. This is also what happens if we
>> change a memory or register value, eg. a variable that
>> controls a conditional branch. We auto-delete the trailing
>> part of the execution log, because now we're going to go
>> forward in a different direction.
>
> But what would we do about "external state"?
Well, I had only been talking in the context of process record,
which doesn't really deal all that well with external state,
as far as I know.
It's fine to open up the discussion to general reverse debugging,
but I think at some point different implementations are going to
have to have their own separate, dedicated commands (as process
record presently does).
Of course, the more generality, the better!
> Example, say I'm debugging a web-server, and half way through a
> connection I go back, then truncate the log and start again in a new
> direction. And clients "mid-session" with the webserver are liable to
> get mighty confused.
Speaking only for process record, I don't think process record
could handle that situation well. It's called process record
for one reason because it only handles one process at a time
(in fact, currently only one thread at a time).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-21 15:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-17 23:48 Michael Snyder
2009-10-19 12:36 ` Hui Zhu
2009-10-19 12:57 ` Marc Khouzam
2009-10-19 13:06 ` Hui Zhu
2009-10-19 13:20 ` Marc Khouzam
2009-10-19 16:35 ` Hui Zhu
2009-10-20 0:59 ` Michael Snyder
2009-10-19 18:24 ` Michael Snyder
2009-10-20 6:44 ` Marc Khouzam
2009-10-20 21:01 ` Michael Snyder
2009-10-21 5:16 ` Greg Law
2009-10-21 15:40 ` Marc Khouzam
2009-10-24 19:29 ` Greg Law
2009-10-25 2:01 ` Michael Snyder
2009-10-26 3:05 ` Marc Khouzam
2009-10-26 9:59 ` Jakob Engblom
2009-10-22 6:31 ` Michael Snyder [this message]
2009-10-21 15:06 ` Marc Khouzam
2009-10-26 7:54 ` Hui Zhu
2009-10-26 8:06 ` Jakob Engblom
2009-10-26 7:58 ` Jakob Engblom
2009-10-26 19:10 ` Michael Snyder
2009-10-27 18:32 ` Jakob Engblom
2009-10-19 18:23 ` Michael Snyder
2009-10-26 3:12 ` Hui Zhu
2009-10-26 8:02 ` Jakob Engblom
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