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From: "Jakob Engblom" <jakob@virtutech.com>
To: <gdb@sourceware.org>
Subject: RE: [FYI] tutorial for process record and reverse debugging
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:59:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <00a501ca5613$37d69ea0$a783dbe0$@com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F7CE05678329534C957159168FA70DEC5157AEC0C7@EUSAACMS0703.eamcs.ericsson.se>

> > FWIW, early versions of UndoDB operated in "Marc-mode".  We
> > changed it
> > because replay mode and record are quite different,
> > particularly w.r.t.
> > to the program's interaction with the outside world. "Silent"
> > transition
> > from replay to record mode could be quite confusing/surprising.
> 
> In cases where the program does interact with the outside world,
> I agree that "auto-mode" could be confusing.  In fact, "record mode"
> may not be the one we want in this case either.  For instance, in
> some cases I may want to re-execute instructions that affect the outside
> world, even if I'm gone backwards.  In this case I would want to use
> the recorded  data to go backwards, but never to go forward (never use
> "replay mode").

Well, it actually can be made to work:

* Make sure the target is isolated, and that the debugger system can catch
anything going to the outside. This is trivial in a simulator or VM.

* When working with past time, don't send on things to the outside world. This
means reverse, replay, and going back again.

* When in progression forward, do connect to the outside world. The only problem
here are time-outs. 

Obviously, my favorite solution is to just get around the entire problem by
including a sufficient component of the world inside the reversible system,
inside a system simulator.


Best regards,

/jakob

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-10-26  8:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-17 23:48 Michael Snyder
2009-10-19 12:36 ` Hui Zhu
2009-10-19 12:57 ` Marc Khouzam
2009-10-19 13:06   ` Hui Zhu
2009-10-19 13:20     ` Marc Khouzam
2009-10-19 16:35       ` Hui Zhu
2009-10-20  0:59         ` Michael Snyder
2009-10-19 18:24       ` Michael Snyder
2009-10-20  6:44         ` Marc Khouzam
2009-10-20 21:01           ` Michael Snyder
2009-10-21  5:16             ` Greg Law
2009-10-21 15:40               ` Marc Khouzam
2009-10-24 19:29                 ` Greg Law
2009-10-25  2:01                   ` Michael Snyder
2009-10-26  3:05                   ` Marc Khouzam
2009-10-26  9:59                 ` Jakob Engblom [this message]
2009-10-22  6:31               ` Michael Snyder
2009-10-21 15:06             ` Marc Khouzam
2009-10-26  7:54             ` Hui Zhu
2009-10-26  8:06             ` Jakob Engblom
2009-10-26  7:58       ` Jakob Engblom
2009-10-26 19:10         ` Michael Snyder
2009-10-27 18:32           ` Jakob Engblom
2009-10-19 18:23   ` Michael Snyder
2009-10-26  3:12     ` Hui Zhu
2009-10-26  8:02     ` Jakob Engblom

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