From: Tom Tromey <tromey@redhat.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com>, gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [patch] New set auto-load-local-gdbinit + disable it by default
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 20:22:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3y5t6hyk6.fsf@fleche.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1Rn6Ac-0005ne-1z@fencepost.gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 17 Jan 2012 05:21:38 -0500")
>>>>> "Eli" == Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
Jan> Still at least the setting should go in and then one can then have
Jan> "set auto-load-local-gdbinit off" at least in ~/.gdbinit. Anyway I
Jan> would file a FESCo (Fedora Engineering Steering Committee) ticket
Jan> for such "off" in /etc/gdbinit at least in distro and IMHO it needs
Jan> to get approved (but maybe not, it would be another fork from
Jan> upstream).
Eli> I think this is a draconian measure. It prevents me from having a
Eli> .gdbinit file loaded automatically as appropriate for a program I'm
Eli> debugging. Prominent examples include GDB itself and Emacs, which
Eli> both come with a .gdbinit file that makes debugging much easier.
Jan> And "gdb -x ./.gdbinit" is a pretty simple way to do what one wants to do.
Eli> "gdb -x .gdbinit" is much longer than just "gdb".
You can also put the setting into your ~/.gdbinit and get the old
behavior back.
I read through this thread and, while I agree that this change is
inconvenient, I think the inconvenience is outweighed by the security
implications. I consider this to be similar to putting "." in PATH.
We're just lucky that it hasn't been exploited yet (or at least that we
haven't gotten the blame).
Well, I "agree" with it -- I am not happy about it by a long stretch.
I'm tempted by the idea that gdb should be insecure by default and we
should require "-safe"... but on balance this seems irresponsible to me,
as I think that tools should generally be secure by default.
FWIW, I think this patch doesn't go far enough :-(
Some other topics for consideration; perhaps the new option could cover
all such cases.
* Auto-loading of Python code from the filesystem.
Perhaps we could have a set of trusted directories; but I wonder if
there are issues with sysroots starting with "remote:".
* Auto-loading of Python code from objfiles.
Even more dangerous.
* The JIT interface.
I'm not sure whether this can be exploited or not.
FWIW, I will probably set the new parameter in my own .gdbinit and use
"-safe" in those rare instances that I do something other than debug
programs that I built myself.
Tom
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-01-17 20:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-01-17 10:16 Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 12:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-17 13:42 ` Joel Brobecker
2012-01-17 14:49 ` [patch 7.4] Deprecate local .gdbinit [Re: [patch] New set auto-load-local-gdbinit + disable it by default] Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 16:22 ` Doug Evans
2012-01-17 20:22 ` Tom Tromey [this message]
2012-01-17 16:15 ` [patch] New set auto-load-local-gdbinit + disable it by default Doug Evans
2012-01-17 16:34 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 16:48 ` Doug Evans
2012-01-17 17:27 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 17:33 ` Doug Evans
2012-01-17 17:55 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 18:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-17 18:35 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 19:54 ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-17 18:31 ` Doug Evans
2012-01-17 18:44 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 19:12 ` Doug Evans
2012-01-17 19:20 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 19:55 ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-17 20:24 ` Pedro Alves
2012-01-17 20:26 ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-17 20:35 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 20:56 ` Pedro Alves
2012-01-17 19:30 ` Matt Rice
2012-01-17 19:37 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 20:26 ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-17 18:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-17 18:28 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 18:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-17 19:02 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 20:29 ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-17 20:49 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 20:54 ` Doug Evans
2012-01-17 21:10 ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-17 21:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-17 21:14 ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-18 4:26 ` Joel Brobecker
2012-01-18 19:38 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-18 20:01 ` Doug Evans
2012-01-19 6:30 ` Joel Brobecker
2012-01-19 12:57 ` [commit] rm gdb/testsuite/.gdbinit [Re: [patch] New set auto-load-local-gdbinit + disable it by default] Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-19 21:07 ` [patch] New set auto-load-local-gdbinit + disable it by default Tom Tromey
2012-01-19 21:47 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-19 21:53 ` Doug Evans
2012-01-20 4:11 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-19 21:06 ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-17 22:16 ` Doug Evans
2012-01-18 3:05 ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-17 16:26 ` Matt Rice
2012-01-17 16:57 ` Doug Evans
2012-01-17 20:09 ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-24 0:33 ` Stan Shebs
2012-01-24 15:54 ` Jan Kratochvil
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