From: Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com>
To: Doug Evans <dje@google.com>
Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [patch] New set auto-load-local-gdbinit + disable it by default
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 17:55:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120117174839.GA8459@host2.jankratochvil.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADPb22S51Er8=Bdirwbj1h=dn0awZjrfuJWXkX8Fdd3tORKE-g@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 18:26:49 +0100, Doug Evans wrote:
> I, OTOH, like the (top-gdb) prompt.
I think you and me can very easily do whatever we like with GDB. I care more
about both newbie users of GDB and also about newcomers to GDB development.
> One could argue the converse too ... Having to manually request
> whatever goodies the developers find useful adds a needless burden.
> Why can't gdb just auto-adjust itself for debugging the program at
> hand?
Because it is then different than normal GDB.
It is difficult to argue myself but IMO in a survey between GDB newbies they
find easier if GDB behaves always the same than if it behaves differently
according to which program you load into it.
> There is the path that gdb searches for libthread_db, maybe you meant
> to refer to that;
Yes, I meant this part.
> one can change it before choosing the file to debug. You seem to
> suggest that -nx was "good enough" before. If that was good enough
> before (and that's a big "if"), why is changing the search path first
> not also "good enough".
Now instead of just -nx one has to use also "set auto-load-scripts off",
use -ex "file X" and -ex "core-file Y" instead of just X and Y to get that
"set auto-load-scripts off" executed first,
use beforehand -ex "set libthread-db-search-path /foo", OK, that may be enough
if I did not miss anything else.
I admit I did not know about "set auto-load-scripts off" myself until
recently.
> As for Python auto-loading, if -nx was good enough before (and if one
> *really* wanted to run gdb in a security hardened environment one
> would use a secured VM or some such anyway ...), then why isn't
> turning off auto-loading of Python scripts ahead of time also good
> enough?
Yes, it is, it is just too complicated, similiar to the extra VM. I plan to
just merge the paragraph above into some user-accessible command-line option
"-safe". I am just not sure how to load pretty printers from system libraries
which are safe but which do not get loaded after "set auto-load-scripts off".
Thanks,
Jan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-01-17 17:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-01-17 10:16 Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 12:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-17 13:42 ` Joel Brobecker
2012-01-17 14:49 ` [patch 7.4] Deprecate local .gdbinit [Re: [patch] New set auto-load-local-gdbinit + disable it by default] Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 16:22 ` Doug Evans
2012-01-17 20:22 ` [patch] New set auto-load-local-gdbinit + disable it by default Tom Tromey
2012-01-17 16:15 ` Doug Evans
2012-01-17 16:34 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 16:48 ` Doug Evans
2012-01-17 17:27 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 17:33 ` Doug Evans
2012-01-17 17:55 ` Jan Kratochvil [this message]
2012-01-17 18:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-17 18:35 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 19:54 ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-17 18:31 ` Doug Evans
2012-01-17 18:44 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 19:12 ` Doug Evans
2012-01-17 19:20 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 19:55 ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-17 20:24 ` Pedro Alves
2012-01-17 20:26 ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-17 20:35 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 20:56 ` Pedro Alves
2012-01-17 19:30 ` Matt Rice
2012-01-17 19:37 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 20:26 ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-17 18:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-17 18:28 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 18:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-17 19:02 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 20:29 ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-17 20:49 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 20:54 ` Doug Evans
2012-01-17 21:10 ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-17 21:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-17 21:14 ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-18 4:26 ` Joel Brobecker
2012-01-18 19:38 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-18 20:01 ` Doug Evans
2012-01-19 6:30 ` Joel Brobecker
2012-01-19 12:57 ` [commit] rm gdb/testsuite/.gdbinit [Re: [patch] New set auto-load-local-gdbinit + disable it by default] Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-19 21:07 ` [patch] New set auto-load-local-gdbinit + disable it by default Tom Tromey
2012-01-19 21:47 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-19 21:53 ` Doug Evans
2012-01-20 4:11 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-19 21:06 ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-17 22:16 ` Doug Evans
2012-01-18 3:05 ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-17 16:26 ` Matt Rice
2012-01-17 16:57 ` Doug Evans
2012-01-17 20:09 ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-24 0:33 ` Stan Shebs
2012-01-24 15:54 ` Jan Kratochvil
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