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From: Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com>
To: Doug Evans <dje@google.com>
Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [patch] New set auto-load-local-gdbinit + disable it by default
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 16:34:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120117162621.GA3883@host2.jankratochvil.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADPb22Ty_iWAPNifD2zn8RDM13HfHVt0swbRbt+LBua8R5aB4w@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 17:11:19 +0100, Doug Evans wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:55 AM, Jan Kratochvil
> <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com> wrote:
> > Besides security problems the automatic execution is even inconvenient:
> >        $ gdb testsuite/gdb.base/return
> >        [...]
> >        Setting up the environment for debugging gdb.
> >        Function "internal_error" not defined.
> >        Make breakpoint pending on future shared library load? (y or [n]) [answered N; input not from terminal]
> >        Function "info_command" not defined.
> >        Make breakpoint pending on future shared library load? (y or [n]) [answered N; input not from terminal]
> >        .gdbinit:8: Error in sourced command file:
> >        Argument required (one or more breakpoint numbers).
> >         - What had happened?  Oh, I forgot -nx again!
> 
> This only affects gdb developers though.

It affects also gcc, gas, emacs, former Frysk, ReactOS, there will be more
malicious .gdbinit files; not listed non-intrusive .gdbinit files which only
define some new commands.


> Another way to go is to enhance gdb's .gdbinit to check for which
> binary is being debugged and only do those things when it's gdb (and
> if necessary enhance the scripting language to support such a check).
> Seems generally useful, we should add support for it anyway.

<bite> When one wants to debug gdb in gdb the file gdb/.gdbinit is really the
most destructive as all its various commands succeed making the debugging
session completely unusable. </bite>


> One problem I have with -nx is that it also turns off system.gdbinit.
> I've sometimes wanted to turn off everything but system.gdbinit,
> without having to specify the path to system.gdbinit in -x.

I do not use system.gdbinit but I use home.gdbinit sharing the problem.


> Well, there is make (and I'm sure others).  E.g.,
> echo "default:; @echo Gotcha." > GNUmakefile && make
> :-)

I was even thinking about make but I do not find it as a valid case.
The primary goal of `make' is to read local Makefile - therefore one cannot be
surprised by it.  The primary goal of GDB is to process its arguments.
I would bet some GDB users do not know there exists anything like .gdbinit.


> I don't mind "set auto-load-local-gdbinit", though "set auto-load
> local-gdbinit" feels better, I could do "show auto-load" and see all
> the auto-load settings (assuming we migrate "auto-load-scripts" to
> "auto-load scripts" - though I'm beginning to like plain "scripts" in
> the name less ...).

I sure followed "auto-load-scripts".  I can change it (later).


> If you want to default it to "off", I think I'd give several releases
> warning notice,
> e.g., at least a year, to give enough time to change our minds if the
> user community really doesn't want it. :-)

I find it OK that way.  Maybe there will be some general disagreement.

I need to know this decision to choose the way fixing next security hole
- "set auto-load-scripts" + libthread_db.so.1 as implemented by Google.
So that the other security options/commands can assume it that way.


Thanks,
Jan


  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-17 16:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-17 10:16 Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 12:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-17 13:42   ` Joel Brobecker
2012-01-17 14:49     ` [patch 7.4] Deprecate local .gdbinit [Re: [patch] New set auto-load-local-gdbinit + disable it by default] Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 16:22       ` Doug Evans
2012-01-17 20:22   ` [patch] New set auto-load-local-gdbinit + disable it by default Tom Tromey
2012-01-17 16:15 ` Doug Evans
2012-01-17 16:34   ` Jan Kratochvil [this message]
2012-01-17 16:48     ` Doug Evans
2012-01-17 17:27       ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 17:33         ` Doug Evans
2012-01-17 17:55           ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 18:29             ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-17 18:35               ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 19:54                 ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-17 18:31             ` Doug Evans
2012-01-17 18:44               ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 19:12                 ` Doug Evans
2012-01-17 19:20                   ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 19:55               ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-17 20:24                 ` Pedro Alves
2012-01-17 20:26                   ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-17 20:35                   ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 20:56                     ` Pedro Alves
2012-01-17 19:30           ` Matt Rice
2012-01-17 19:37             ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 20:26             ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-17 18:00     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-17 18:28       ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 18:43         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-17 19:02           ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 20:29         ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-17 20:49           ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-17 20:54             ` Doug Evans
2012-01-17 21:10             ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-17 21:13           ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-17 21:14             ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-18  4:26               ` Joel Brobecker
2012-01-18 19:38                 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-18 20:01                   ` Doug Evans
2012-01-19  6:30                   ` Joel Brobecker
2012-01-19 12:57                     ` [commit] rm gdb/testsuite/.gdbinit [Re: [patch] New set auto-load-local-gdbinit + disable it by default] Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-19 21:07                   ` [patch] New set auto-load-local-gdbinit + disable it by default Tom Tromey
2012-01-19 21:47                     ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-19 21:53                       ` Doug Evans
2012-01-20  4:11                         ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-01-19 21:06                 ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-17 22:16             ` Doug Evans
2012-01-18  3:05               ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-17 16:26 ` Matt Rice
2012-01-17 16:57   ` Doug Evans
2012-01-17 20:09 ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-24  0:33 ` Stan Shebs
2012-01-24 15:54   ` Jan Kratochvil

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