From: Thiago Jung Bauermann <thiago.bauermann@linaro.org>
To: "Schimpe, Christina" <christina.schimpe@intel.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
"gdb-patches@sourceware.org" <gdb-patches@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/9] gdb: Provide gdbarch hook to distinguish shadow stack backtrace elements.
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2025 15:39:26 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o6p1x1nl.fsf@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SN7PR11MB7638636AA640BA6AEE3503A9F9CCA@SN7PR11MB7638.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (Christina Schimpe's message of "Wed, 12 Nov 2025 17:28:39 +0000")
Hello Christina,
"Schimpe, Christina" <christina.schimpe@intel.com> writes:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Thiago Jung Bauermann <thiago.bauermann@linaro.org>
>> Sent: Sonntag, 2. November 2025 22:20
>> To: Schimpe, Christina <christina.schimpe@intel.com>
>> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>; gdb-patches@sourceware.org
>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/9] gdb: Provide gdbarch hook to distinguish shadow
>> stack backtrace elements.
>>
>> "Schimpe, Christina" <christina.schimpe@intel.com> writes:
>>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2025 1:50 PM
>> >> To: Schimpe, Christina <christina.schimpe@intel.com>
>> >> Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org
>> >> Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/9] gdb: Provide gdbarch hook to distinguish
>> >> shadow stack backtrace elements.
>> >>
>> >> > From: Christina Schimpe <christina.schimpe@intel.com>
>> >> > Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2025 11:18:40 +0000
>> >> >
>> >> > On x86 with CET there can be elements on the shadow stack which are
>> >> > not return addresses. In this case, we just want to print the
>> >> > element itself in the shadow stack backtrace, but no further information.
>> >> >
>> >> > Provide a gdbarch hook to distinguish between return and non-return
>> >> > addresses and use it to print the shadow stack backtrace as
>> >> > described above.
>> >> > ---
>> >> > gdb/doc/gdb.texinfo | 19 ++++++++++++
>> >> > gdb/gdbarch-gen.c | 32 ++++++++++++++++++++
>> >> > gdb/gdbarch-gen.h | 15 +++++++++
>> >> > gdb/gdbarch.h | 1 +
>> >> > gdb/gdbarch_components.py | 17 +++++++++++
>> >> > gdb/shadow-stack.c | 64 +++++++++++++++++----------------------
>> >> > gdb/shadow-stack.h | 37 ++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >> > 7 files changed, 148 insertions(+), 37 deletions(-)
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.
>> >>
>> >> > diff --git a/gdb/doc/gdb.texinfo b/gdb/doc/gdb.texinfo index
>> >> > ebda4546b58..a0fde385a8e 100644
>> >> > --- a/gdb/doc/gdb.texinfo
>> >> > +++ b/gdb/doc/gdb.texinfo
>> >> > @@ -8887,6 +8887,25 @@ This is how a shadow stack backtrace looks
>> >> > like
>> >> on amd64:
>> >> > @end group
>> >> > @end smallexample
>> >> >
>> >> > +There can be elements on the shadow stack which are not return
>> >> > +addresses, for example on x86 with the Intel Control-Flow
>> >> > +Enforcement Technology (@xref{CET}). In case of signals, the old
>> >> > +shadow stack pointer is pushed
>> >> ^
>> >> A cross-reference is missing here.
>> >
>> > Thanks will fix.
>> >
>> >> > +in a special format with bit 63 set. For such shadow stack
>> >> > +elements, the shadow stack frame just contains the level and the
>> >> > +address on the shadow stack, as shown in the following example by frame 1:
>> >> > +
>> >> > +@smallexample
>> >> > +@group
>> >> > +(gdb) bt shadow 4
>> >> > +#0 0x00007ffff7c54d90 in __restore_rt from /lib64/libc.so.6
>> >> > +#1 0x80007ffff79fffd8
>> >> > +#2 0x00007ffff7c54ce6 in __GI_raise at
>> >> > +../sysdeps/posix/raise.c:27
>> >> > +#3 0x000000000040115d in main at /tmp/amd64-shadow-stack-signal.c:32
>> >> > +(More shadow stack frames follow...) @end group @end smallexample
>> >>
>> >> Would it make sense to show something like "<signal caught>", instead
>> >> of a frame with only an address?
>> >
>> > Yeah, this is a good idea, I wondered about a similar thing actually
>> > but wanted to discuss the general direction for handling those specific
>> > elements on the shadow stack first.
>> > Maybe there are more options on other architectures that we have to
>> > consider.
>> > Let's wait for more feedback on this, I added Thiago again in cc here.
>>
>> Yes, I would like to show a "<signal handler called>" message in the
>> corresponding shadow stack entry, as is done in the regular stack:
>>
>> (gdb) bt
>> #0 handler (signo=10) at aarch64-gcs-signal.c:59
>> #1 <signal handler called>
>> #2 __pthread_kill_implementation (threadid=281474842447584,
>> signo=signo@entry=10, no_tid=no_tid@entry=0)
>> at ./nptl/pthread_kill.c:44
>> #3 0x0000fffff7e77670 in __pthread_kill_internal (signo=10,
>> threadid=<optimized out>) at ./nptl/pthread_kill.c:78
>> #4 0x0000fffff7e2cb3c in __GI_raise (sig=10) at ../sysdeps/posix/raise.c:26
>> #5 0x0000aaaaaaaa0b24 in main () at aarch64-gcs-signal.c:96
>>
>> Here is the corresponding GCS backtrace:
>>
>> (gdb) bt shadow
>> #0 0x0000fffff7ffa85c in __kernel_rt_sigreturn
>> #1 0x0000fffff7bff000 in ??
>> #2 0x0000fffff7e2cb3c in __GI_raise at ../sysdeps/posix/raise.c:27
>> #3 0x0000aaaaaaaa0b24 in main at aarch64-gcs-signal.c:99
>>
>> In this example "<signal handler called>" message would replace the VDSO
>> function name in entry #0. Also note that it's an actual return address but we
>> still want to show a custom message for it.
>> Finally, notice that there's GCS entry #1, which isn't a return address. It's a "cap
>> record", which marks that the stack is currently not in use. When a signal is
>> delivered, the kernel pushes two entries to the thread's GCS: first the cap
>> record, then the address to the signal trampoline (__kernel_rt_sigreturn). For
>> this entry, I'd like to show "<cap record>".
>> One suggestion to handle that is to make do_print_shadow_stack_frame_info
>> call a new hook gdbarch_print_shadow_stack_frame_info which would allow
>> the architecture to print the shadow stack frame however it wants. If the hook
>> returns false, then do_print_shadow_stack_frame_info would print the
>> information itself, as it does in your patch. What do you think?
>
> If possible, I'd like to keep it as generic as possible. The <signal handler called>
> message is useful for CET, too. The CET equivalent for "cap record" should be "sigframe
> token".
>
> |1...old SSP| - Pointer to old pre-signal ssp in sigframe token format
> (bit 63 set to 1)
> (https://docs.kernel.org/next/x86/shstk.html)
Agreed, it should be as generic as possible.
> In the commit message I described that "bt shadow" always prints the address:
>
> "Similar to the ordinary backtrace command 'bt shadow' can be configured
> using COUNT and the command line option -frame-info. However, we always
> print the address and the command is not affected by the setting
> "print address" as well as the setting "print frame-info location-and-address".
> Also we do not print the frame arguments."
>
> Do you think we should align with the ordinary backtrace for the printing of shadow stack
> addresses ?
> When implementing this I thought it would be nice to always print addresses, but now I am
> not so sure anymore.
I understand why it makes sense to ignore the "print address" setting:
essentially the only things the shadow stack contains are return
addresses, and we're not going to print them? My inclination is to agree
with always printing them.
But thinking a bit more about it, the frame information that GDB prints
is good even if the address isn't printed along with it so I think it's
better to respect the setting. Also it's good to be consistent with the
regular backtrace output.
> Based on your suggestion we could print it as follows and replace the shadow stack
> addresses:
>
> (gdb) bt shadow
> #0 <signal handler called>
> #1 <sigframe token >
> #2 0x00007ffff7c4527e in __GI_raise at ../sysdeps/posix/raise.c:27
> #3 0x0000555555555175 in main at /tmp/amd64-shadow-stack-signal.c:30
> #4 0x00007ffff7c2a1ca in __libc_start_call_main at
> ../sysdeps/nptl/libc_start_call_main.h:74
> #5 0x00007ffff7c2a28b in __libc_start_main_impl at ../csu/libc-start.c:128
> #6 0x0000555555555085 in _start
>
> For GCS we show "cap record" instead of "sigframe token".
I agree. I like the output above.
My only comment is that there a also the "set backtrace past-main" and
"set backtrace past-entry" options, which "bt shadow" should also
respect. So if the former setting is on, the output above should stop
at frame #3.
> In case the gdbarch hook "is_no_return_address" returns true, we could additionally return
> a string,
> which should be displayed inside the <...>. So in our case this would be "sigframe token"
> or "cap record" .
>
> What do you think?
I think that is a good idea, and should be enough for GCS.
--
Thiago
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Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-23 11:18 [PATCH 0/9] Add new command to print the shadow stack backtrace Christina Schimpe
2025-09-23 11:18 ` [PATCH 1/9] gdb: Generalize handling of the shadow stack pointer Christina Schimpe
2025-10-31 1:31 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-11-17 11:18 ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-11-26 4:19 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-12-30 10:39 ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-09-23 11:18 ` [PATCH 2/9] gdb: Refactor 'stack.c:print_frame' Christina Schimpe
2025-10-03 20:05 ` Tom Tromey
2025-09-23 11:18 ` [PATCH 3/9] gdb: Introduce 'stack.c:print_pc' function without frame argument Christina Schimpe
2025-10-03 19:56 ` Tom Tromey
2025-09-23 11:18 ` [PATCH 4/9] gdb: Refactor 'find_symbol_funname' and 'info_frame_command_core' in stack.c Christina Schimpe
2025-10-03 19:55 ` Tom Tromey
2025-09-23 11:18 ` [PATCH 5/9] gdb: Refactor 'stack.c:print_frame_info' Christina Schimpe
2025-10-03 20:03 ` Tom Tromey
2025-09-23 11:18 ` [PATCH 6/9] gdb: Implement 'bt shadow' to print the shadow stack backtrace Christina Schimpe
2025-09-23 11:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-09-25 11:06 ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-09-25 13:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-09-25 14:58 ` Simon Marchi
2025-09-26 7:45 ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-10-29 15:05 ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-10-29 15:28 ` Guinevere Larsen
2025-11-03 19:47 ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-11-04 11:53 ` Guinevere Larsen
2025-11-05 16:33 ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-10-13 1:17 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-10-13 7:19 ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-10-31 4:39 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-11-06 14:23 ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-10-03 20:15 ` Tom Tromey
2025-10-12 19:45 ` Schimpe, Christina
2026-02-19 17:24 ` Tom Tromey
2026-03-02 12:24 ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-10-31 4:02 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-11-17 20:14 ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-11-26 4:07 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-11-26 16:29 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2026-01-22 17:04 ` Schimpe, Christina
2026-03-06 2:35 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2026-01-15 14:05 ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-09-23 11:18 ` [PATCH 7/9] gdb: Provide gdbarch hook to distinguish shadow stack backtrace elements Christina Schimpe
2025-09-23 11:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-09-25 11:10 ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-11-02 21:20 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-11-12 17:28 ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-11-16 18:39 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann [this message]
2025-11-17 11:51 ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-09-23 11:18 ` [PATCH 8/9] gdb: Implement the hook 'is_no_return_shadow_stack_address' for amd64 linux Christina Schimpe
2025-11-26 4:22 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-09-23 11:18 ` [PATCH 9/9] gdb, mi: Add -shadow-stack-list-frames command Christina Schimpe
2025-09-23 11:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-09-25 11:32 ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-10-03 20:17 ` Tom Tromey
2025-10-12 19:54 ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-10-13 0:06 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-11-26 4:26 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2026-01-22 17:01 ` Schimpe, Christina
2026-03-06 2:44 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-09-25 11:46 ` [PATCH 0/9] Add new command to print the shadow stack backtrace Schimpe, Christina
2025-10-08 1:46 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-10-13 1:18 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-10-13 6:34 ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-10-29 14:52 ` Schimpe, Christina
2025-10-31 0:47 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2025-12-30 10:16 ` Schimpe, Christina
2026-03-06 2:30 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2026-03-12 9:53 ` Schimpe, Christina
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