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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com>
Cc: palves@redhat.com, brobecker@adacore.com,
	markus.t.metzger@intel.com, gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] Introduce gdb::unique_ptr
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 13:28:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83shs08jk1.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161013104542.GA5494@host1.jankratochvil.net> (message from Jan	Kratochvil on Thu, 13 Oct 2016 12:45:42 +0200)

> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 12:45:42 +0200
> From: Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com>
> Cc: palves@redhat.com, brobecker@adacore.com, markus.t.metzger@intel.com,
>         gdb-patches@sourceware.org
> 
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 12:06:33 +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > That depends.  Mingw.org has only 5.3.0 as the latest offering, and
> > recently enough (a few months ago) it only had 4.9.3.  So please be very
> > careful when you make assumptions about how widespread a certain
> > compiler version is in n on-Posix world.
> 
> 5.3.0 was released 2016-04-27
> 	https://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw/files/MinGW/Base/gcc/Version5/gcc-5.3.0-2/
> 4.9.3 was released 2015-07-25
> 	https://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw/files/MinGW/Base/gcc/Version4/gcc-4.9.3-1/

That's what I said, without giving the exact numbers, no?

> That was after 9 months.  4.8.1 was released May 2013 = 41 months ago.
> 
> I find 9 and 41 months a big difference.

Yes, 41 - 9 = 32.  So?  What is the significance of this for the issue
at hand?

> Besides that AFAIK mingw.org is dead, it has been superseded by mingw-w64.org.

No, it isn't dead and isn't superseded.  Your information is wrong.

> What are you trying to say?

That your assumptions about the availability of latest compiler
versions are too optimistic, IMO.  On GNU/Linux, and certainly on
MS-Windows.

> A dead project makes releases 4.5x faster than what GDB would
> require for its build.  You more justify that GDB could for example
> require even C++14.

Sorry, I cannot parse these 2 sentences.

> And even if someone does not have the C++11 compiler installed most
> of the users prefer to install applications (such as is GDB) in a
> binary form anyway.

Somebody must produce those binaries first.  Someone like this guy,
for example:

  https://sourceforge.net/projects/ezwinports/files/

That someone does need to have the required tools.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-10-13 13:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-10 16:46 [PATCH 0/3] More cleanup elimination / gdb::unique_ptr Pedro Alves
2016-10-10 16:46 ` [PATCH 1/3] Introduce gdb::unique_ptr Pedro Alves
2016-10-10 17:49   ` Simon Marchi
2016-10-10 18:03     ` Pedro Alves
2016-10-11  6:48   ` Metzger, Markus T
2016-10-11 10:23     ` Pedro Alves
2016-10-11 10:53       ` Andreas Schwab
2016-10-11 11:17       ` Metzger, Markus T
2016-10-11 11:43         ` Pedro Alves
2016-10-11 13:58           ` Yao Qi
2016-10-11 14:05           ` Trevor Saunders
2016-10-11 12:16       ` Joel Brobecker
2016-10-11 13:46         ` Pedro Alves
2016-10-11 14:47           ` Joel Brobecker
2016-10-11 15:17             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-11 16:24               ` Pedro Alves
2016-10-11 16:58                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-11 17:41                   ` Pedro Alves
2016-10-11 18:37                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-11 19:19                       ` Pedro Alves
2016-10-11 20:47                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-11 21:32                           ` Pedro Alves
2016-10-12  6:34                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-12  8:11                               ` Metzger, Markus T
2016-10-12  9:31                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-12 10:12                                   ` Pedro Alves
2016-10-12 11:05                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-12 11:25                                       ` Pedro Alves
2016-10-12 11:45                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-13 12:12                                           ` Pedro Alves
2016-10-12 10:28                                 ` Pedro Alves
2016-10-12 11:07                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-12 11:19                                     ` Pedro Alves
2016-10-12 11:41                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-12 11:55                                         ` Pedro Alves
2016-10-13  0:38                                   ` [PATCH] Enable C++11 starting with gcc 4.8 (was: Re: [PATCH 1/3] Introduce gdb::unique_ptr) Pedro Alves
2016-10-13  0:45                                     ` [PATCH 2/2] gdb: Enable C++11 if available Pedro Alves
2016-10-13  0:45                                     ` [PATCH 1/2] gdb: Import AX_CXX_COMPILE_STDCXX from the GNU Autoconf Archive Pedro Alves
2016-10-12  9:37                               ` [PATCH 1/3] Introduce gdb::unique_ptr Pedro Alves
2016-10-12 10:51                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-12 11:15                                   ` Pedro Alves
2016-10-12 11:40                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-12 11:45                                   ` Jan Kratochvil
2016-10-12 11:56                                     ` Luis Machado
2016-10-12 12:03                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-13  9:07                                       ` Jan Kratochvil
2016-10-13 10:07                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-13 10:27                                           ` Pedro Alves
2016-10-13 13:22                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-13 13:36                                               ` Pedro Alves
2016-10-13 13:59                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-13 14:04                                                   ` Pedro Alves
2016-10-13 15:06                                                     ` Joel Brobecker
2016-10-13 10:46                                           ` Jan Kratochvil
2016-10-13 11:15                                             ` Pedro Alves
2016-10-13 13:28                                             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2016-10-13 13:42                                               ` Pedro Alves
2016-10-13 14:07                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-11 19:23                       ` Simon Marchi
2016-10-11 20:54                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-11 21:28                           ` Simon Marchi
2016-10-12  6:23                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-11 21:16                         ` Jan Kratochvil
2016-10-11 17:15                 ` Luis Machado
2016-10-11 18:21                   ` Pedro Alves
2016-10-10 16:46 ` [PATCH 3/3] 'struct parse_expression *' -> gdb::unique_ptr<expression> Pedro Alves
2016-10-10 16:58 ` [PATCH 0/3] More cleanup elimination / gdb::unique_ptr Pedro Alves
2016-10-16  7:05   ` Tom Tromey
2016-10-17 13:57     ` Pedro Alves
2016-10-17 14:07       ` Tom Tromey
2016-10-17 14:59         ` Pedro Alves
2016-10-20 13:46   ` Pedro Alves

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