From: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: brobecker@adacore.com, gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix "PC register is not available" issue
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 16:41:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5329C8B2.4040409@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83a9cm9mwr.fsf@gnu.org>
On 03/19/2014 04:24 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:06:51 +0000
>> From: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
>> CC: brobecker@adacore.com, gdb-patches@sourceware.org
>>
>> On 03/19/2014 03:40 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>>>> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 17:33:16 +0000
>>>> From: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
>>>> CC: Joel Brobecker <brobecker@adacore.com>, gdb-patches@sourceware.org
>>>>
>>>> I see that the GetThreadContext call (do_windows_fetch_inferior_registers)
>>>> doesn't check for errors (I think it should (*)). It'd be interesting to know whether gdb can
>>>> actually read the registers off of this thread
>>>
>>> How to see those registers?
>>
>> Just "info registers" ?
>
> That's what I thought, but ...
>
>> If we can't even read registers off of it, and GetThreadContext
>> is failing, it means after your patch we'll be showing bogus
>> register contents for these threads.
>
> ...how do you tell bogus register contents from correct contents?
> It's not like I know which register should have what value at any
> given time, do I?
The point is that GDB ignores GetThreadContext errors, and so
if indeed GetThreadContext fails, GDB happily proceeds
decoding a bogus th->context. I mean, we should do this
in do_windows_fetch_inferior_registers:
- GetThreadContext (th->h, &th->context);
+ CHECK (GetThreadContext (th->h, &th->context));
So that GetThreadContext fails, we at least see a warning.
I assume that if GetThreadContext does not fail, then the
register contents are correct.
>
>> But I think GetThreadContext will indeed succeed for these threads.
>
> Well, at least MSDN begs to differ:
>
> You cannot get a valid context for a running thread. Use the
> SuspendThread function to suspend the thread before calling
> GetThreadContext.
I mean it'll succeed because we only ever read registers when
threads are stopped for debug event. I don't mean to imply
that those threads are special WRT to GetThreadContext. It's
not valid to get a context for a _running_ thread. But after a
debug event, no thread is running at all. The OS already
stopped threads for us.
>
>> AFAIK, we don't really need the SuspendThread calls when handling
>> a debug event, given that when WaitForDebugEvent returns a
>> stop event, all threads have already been stopped by the OS for us.
>
> Yes, AFAIK that's true.
Alright, we were talking past each other then.
I did a little websearch, and I found evidence of other debuggers
also not using SuspendThread after events:
http://www.ollydbg.de/Help/t_run.htm
"indebugevent
Application is paused on debug event, therefore Suspendallthreads() does not need to call SuspendThread()"
>
>> We really only need to SuspendThread threads when we might want
>> to leave most threads paused on the next resume, for e.g., when
>> stepping over a breakpoint. The suspend count handling in
>> windows-nat.c is quite messy, and looking at the code, it doesn't
>> look like we actually get that right, given we only SuspendThread
>> threads if we try to read their registers, and so if nothing reads
>> registers off all threads when e.g., handling a breakpoint that
>> we decide needs to be stepped over (which we don't), then we end
>> up resuming threads we shouldn't.
>
> That's assuming that stepping resumes threads. I'm not sure, but I
> really don't know enough about debugging APIs on Windows.
There's no special step request in the debug API. The way to set
a thread stepping is to enable the trace flag in eflags:
if (step)
{
/* Single step by setting t bit. */
struct regcache *regcache = get_current_regcache ();
struct gdbarch *gdbarch = get_regcache_arch (regcache);
windows_fetch_inferior_registers (ops, regcache,
gdbarch_ps_regnum (gdbarch));
th->context.EFlags |= FLAG_TRACE_BIT;
}
>> It'll likely show us the thread is stopped at some ntdll.dll function
>> or some such, and from the function name we will likely
>> be able to infer what/which thread is this, like, e.g., whether
>> it's a thread injected with DebugBreakProcess or some such
>> (internally by one of the system dlls or the dlls your app
>> links with).
>
> I'll see what I can find about that, but I doubt you'd see something
> telltale in the backtrace. (The thread started by Windows for
> debugging is not part of this issue; I never saw the threads that are
> to have any debug-related functions on their callstacks.)
Thanks!
--
Pedro Alves
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-03-19 16:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-03-17 19:43 Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-18 16:16 ` Joel Brobecker
2014-03-18 16:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-18 16:54 ` Joel Brobecker
2014-03-18 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-18 17:33 ` Pedro Alves
2014-03-19 3:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-19 10:07 ` Pedro Alves
2014-03-19 16:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-19 16:41 ` Pedro Alves [this message]
2014-03-26 18:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-27 12:56 ` Joel Brobecker
2014-03-27 17:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-28 13:00 ` Joel Brobecker
2014-03-28 17:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-28 14:50 ` Pedro Alves
2014-03-28 17:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-28 17:49 ` Pedro Alves
2014-03-28 18:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-31 15:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-04-05 9:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-04-07 16:58 ` Joel Brobecker
2014-04-07 17:09 ` Pedro Alves
2014-04-07 18:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-04-07 21:39 ` Joel Brobecker
2014-04-08 2:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-04-08 4:23 ` Joel Brobecker
2014-04-08 15:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-04-08 11:32 ` Pedro Alves
2014-04-08 16:43 ` Pedro Alves
2014-04-08 17:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-04-08 17:36 ` Pedro Alves
2014-04-08 17:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-04-11 20:06 ` Joel Brobecker
2014-04-19 8:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-04-21 15:43 ` Joel Brobecker
2014-04-21 15:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
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