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From: Jeff Johnston <jjohnstn@redhat.com>
To: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@false.org>
Cc: Andrew Cagney <cagney@gnu.org>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	gdb-patches@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFA]: Watchpoints per thread patch
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 20:48:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41912D20.6090706@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041109193124.GA4085@nevyn.them.org>

Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 02:06:07PM -0500, Jeff Johnston wrote:
> 
>>Time out here for a second.  I have been modifying this patch according to 
>>"your" comments.  I have had a design that had no observers and one that 
>>kept the observation isolated to the linux code.
> 
> 
> The design without observers had plenty of other problems, e.g. it also
> broke remote debugging.
> 
> My suggestion about putting the observer in add_thread was a bad one.
> I've never claimed to be an infallible lord of development.  A
> new_thread observer does indeed belong in add_thread, but is not
> suitable for your use; and I didn't understand why until later.
> 

Fair enough, but it was certainly uncalled for to categorize my patch(s) as
"crap" as I was attempting to implement your suggested changes.

> We could use a Linux native specific observer, or handle this through
> the target stack.  I think handling it through the target stack makes
> more sense, but I haven't sketched out what the target method would
> look like.  If other GDB developers think that the precedent of a
> native-code-only observer isn't a bad one, then maybe we should go back
> to your previous placement of the observer and give it a Linux specific
> name.  This will be aided by renaming thread-db to be clearly Linux
> native code.
>

Ok.  I'll wait and see if anybody else has objections.  Eli, I understand that I 
would have to rename the observer and change its definition appropriately.

> 
>>One key issue of my latest patch you seem to object to is the fact that I 
>>now have to massage the ptid.  This was not necessary in the previous 
>>design where I was observing within the linux code where the lwp was 
>>readily available.  We both know the low-level code is fundamentally wrong 
>>in its assumption regarding the ptids.  They cannot be assumed to be in 
>>PID, LWP, 0 format.  We get lucky with register accesses only because the 
>>thread-db code is flushing registers in the lwp format.  It is not 
>>documented and when low-level code accesses ptids outside of thread-db, it 
>>is wrong.  Watchpoints are in the this boat because they are accessed by 
>>breakpoint.c and infrun.c where the ptid is in the wrong format (PID, 0, 
>>TID).
>>
>>I feel your objection to temporarily massaging these ptids as thread-db.c 
>>does is unreasonable.  We need to think of the end-user.  The amount of 
>>code added is small and it is trivial to remove this code once the 
>>preferred solution is in place.  There is currently no work-around to 
>>solving thread bugs involving memory corruption.
>>
>>If you have a fix planned soon regarding the ptid format, I have absolutely 
>>no objection to waiting for it.  However, if you can't get around to this 
>>for a while due to other commitments or it is going to take some hashing 
>>out on the list, let's stop punishing the end-user and do something helpful 
>>while we work things out proper.
> 
> 
> Jeff, I've already posted the thread-db change to make this
> unnecessary.  I was asked to rename the file first, and I've posted
> that too.
>

Ok, my misunderstanding.  Like I said, if something is currently in the works, I 
have no problem in waiting.

-- Jeff J.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-11-09 20:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-19 23:57 Jeff Johnston
2004-10-20  5:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-20 11:03 ` Mark Kettenis
2004-10-20 16:21   ` Jeff Johnston
2004-10-20 17:27 ` Andrew Cagney
2004-10-20 17:30   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-10-27 22:36     ` Jeff Johnston
2004-10-27 22:41       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-10-27 23:17         ` Jeff Johnston
2004-10-28 13:33           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-10-28 19:47             ` Jeff Johnston
2004-10-28 19:52               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-10-28 20:13                 ` Jeff Johnston
2004-10-28  4:55       ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-11-04 18:25         ` Jeff Johnston
2004-11-04 21:21           ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-11-05  4:49           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-11-05 16:52             ` Andrew Cagney
2004-11-05 18:29               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-11-08 21:33                 ` Andrew Cagney
2004-11-09  1:04                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-11-09  2:20                     ` Andrew Cagney
2004-11-09  2:33                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-11-09  4:53                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-11-09 15:11                         ` Andrew Cagney
2004-11-09 18:41                           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-11-11 21:22                             ` Andrew Cagney
2004-11-09 19:06                         ` Jeff Johnston
2004-11-09 19:31                           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-11-09 20:24                             ` Jim Blandy
2004-11-10  0:02                               ` Jeff Johnston
2004-11-10 14:39                                 ` Jim Blandy
2004-11-11 21:23                                 ` Andrew Cagney
2004-11-09 20:48                             ` Jeff Johnston [this message]
2004-11-09 20:50                               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-11-10 19:45                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-11-10 22:08                                 ` Jeff Johnston
2004-11-10 19:43                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-20 19:27   ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-11-05 11:49 Ulrich Weigand

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