From: Andrew Cagney <ac131313@redhat.com>
To: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@mvista.com>
Cc: Kevin Buettner <kevinb@redhat.com>,
cgd@broadcom.com, gdb-patches@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [WIP/RFC] MIPS registers overhaul
Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 20:45:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3ECE8853.3020906@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030523184439.GA7928@nevyn.them.org>
> On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 02:21:49PM -0400, Andrew Cagney wrote:
>
>>
>
>> >>Er, it's the same deal as for SPARC. If GDB is built against the 64 bit
>> >>debug interface, it can debug both 32 and 64 bit applications. This is
>> >>the debuggers view, not the program being run's view.
>
>> >
>> >
>> >But the point is that the debugger's view of a 32-bit application on
>> >MIPS is of a 32-bit ISA. That's all that's available. You get 32-bit
>> >registers from the kernel.
>
>>
>> That isn't true. CF the embedded case. The ISA can be 64 bits, but the
>> ABI 32 bits. This argument is becomming circular.
>
>
> I'm not talking about the embedded case! I never said that we should
> always use a 32-bit protocol when debugging a 32-bit ABI. I said that
> in this case, using rda or gdbserver on a hosted system, it doesn't
> make any sense to use the 64-bit protocol.
GDB shouldn't be differentiating. It's a remote.c problem.
>> GDB has to make a choice. Either hack the tdep code so that it tries to
>> get the user, register, and target ABIs to all line up, or select an
>> underlying canonical ISA and expect targets to map their register values
>> onto that. Selecting a definitive 64 bit ISA means that the tdep code
>> works in all cases - the target is made responsibile for resolving self
>> inflicted esoteric edge cases.
>
>
> Then why have the 32-bit protocol at all, besides compatibility with
> existing stubs? Just waste the transfer time for the unused bits all
> the time.
If the self inflicting esoteric remote target and the regcache were no
longer connected at the hip, more efficient register protocols could be
used. Anyway some packing techniques:
- T packets (available now)
- proposed short T register values
- proposed [pP] packet to request additional registers
- proposed ``!'' [for network byte ordered] register values
- use of run-length encoding (available now?)
- use of -1 to encode 0xffffffffffffffff (available now?)
>> Note here that the self inflicting esoteric target is remote.c, it is
>> still tied to the register cache at the hip :-(
Andrew
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-05-23 20:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-05-10 0:25 Kevin Buettner
2003-05-10 20:30 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-05-10 20:40 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-05-14 22:00 ` Kevin Buettner
[not found] ` <mailpost.1052949911.28802@news-sj1-1>
2003-05-14 23:35 ` cgd
2003-05-15 0:07 ` Kevin Buettner
2003-05-15 0:15 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-05-15 22:01 ` Kevin Buettner
2003-05-16 3:24 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-05-16 4:00 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-05-16 17:20 ` Kevin Buettner
[not found] ` <mailpost.1053057614.17325@news-sj1-1>
2003-05-16 22:25 ` cgd
[not found] ` <mailpost.1053123913.16634@news-sj1-1>
2003-05-16 22:50 ` cgd
2003-05-16 23:05 ` Kevin Buettner
[not found] ` <mailpost.1053126410.17856@news-sj1-1>
2003-05-16 23:24 ` cgd
2003-05-17 0:41 ` Kevin Buettner
2003-05-17 20:59 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-05-20 20:18 ` Always remote: " Andrew Cagney
2003-05-20 20:26 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
[not found] ` <mailpost.1053132070.20348@news-sj1-1>
2003-05-20 20:37 ` cgd
2003-05-20 20:51 ` Kevin Buettner
2003-05-20 20:52 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-05-20 21:57 ` cgd
2003-05-21 15:34 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-05-21 15:41 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-05-21 16:38 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-05-21 16:58 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-05-21 18:32 ` Kevin Buettner
2003-05-21 19:15 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-05-21 19:45 ` Kevin Buettner
2003-05-22 0:32 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-05-23 18:39 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-05-23 19:02 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-05-23 20:45 ` Andrew Cagney [this message]
2003-05-20 20:25 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-05-20 20:32 ` cgd
2003-05-21 15:40 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-06-15 1:44 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-06-16 18:06 ` cgd
2003-06-16 18:47 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-06-15 17:23 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-06-16 20:06 ` cgd
2003-06-16 20:41 ` Andrew Cagney
[not found] ` <mailpost.1055796186.4097@news-sj1-1>
2003-06-17 5:04 ` cgd
2003-06-17 14:27 ` Andrew Cagney
[not found] ` <mailpost.1055860052.3406@news-sj1-1>
2003-06-17 16:27 ` cgd
2003-05-21 20:58 David Anderson
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