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From: Andrew Cagney <ac131313@redhat.com>
To: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@mvista.com>
Cc: Kevin Buettner <kevinb@redhat.com>,
	cgd@broadcom.com, gdb-patches@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [WIP/RFC] MIPS registers overhaul
Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 20:45:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3ECE8853.3020906@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030523184439.GA7928@nevyn.them.org>

> On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 02:21:49PM -0400, Andrew Cagney wrote:
> 
>> 
> 
>> >>Er, it's the same deal as for SPARC.  If GDB is built against the 64 bit 
>> >>debug interface, it can debug both 32 and 64 bit applications.  This is 
>> >>the debuggers view, not the program being run's view.
> 
>> >
>> >
>> >But the point is that the debugger's view of a 32-bit application on
>> >MIPS is of a 32-bit ISA.  That's all that's available.  You get 32-bit
>> >registers from the kernel.
> 
>> 
>> That isn't true.  CF the embedded case.  The ISA can be 64 bits, but the 
>> ABI 32 bits.  This argument is becomming circular.
> 
> 
> I'm not talking about the embedded case!  I never said that we should
> always use a 32-bit protocol when debugging a 32-bit ABI.  I said that
> in this case, using rda or gdbserver on a hosted system, it doesn't
> make any sense to use the 64-bit protocol.

GDB shouldn't be differentiating.  It's a remote.c problem.

>> GDB has to make a choice.  Either hack the tdep code so that it tries to 
>> get the user, register, and target ABIs to all line up, or select an 
>> underlying canonical ISA and expect targets to map their register values 
>> onto that.  Selecting a definitive 64 bit ISA means that the tdep code 
>> works in all cases - the target is made responsibile for resolving self 
>> inflicted esoteric edge cases.
> 
> 
> Then why have the 32-bit protocol at all, besides compatibility with
> existing stubs?  Just waste the transfer time for the unused bits all
> the time.

If the self inflicting esoteric remote target and the regcache were no 
longer connected at the hip, more efficient register protocols could be 
used.  Anyway some packing techniques:

- T packets (available now)
- proposed short T register values
- proposed [pP] packet to request additional registers
- proposed ``!'' [for network byte ordered] register values
- use of run-length encoding (available now?)
- use of -1 to encode 0xffffffffffffffff (available now?)

>> Note here that the self inflicting esoteric target is remote.c, it is 
>> still tied to the register cache at the hip :-(

Andrew



  reply	other threads:[~2003-05-23 20:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-10  0:25 Kevin Buettner
2003-05-10 20:30 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-05-10 20:40   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-05-14 22:00   ` Kevin Buettner
     [not found]     ` <mailpost.1052949911.28802@news-sj1-1>
2003-05-14 23:35       ` cgd
2003-05-15  0:07         ` Kevin Buettner
2003-05-15  0:15           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-05-15 22:01     ` Kevin Buettner
2003-05-16  3:24       ` Andrew Cagney
2003-05-16  4:00     ` Andrew Cagney
2003-05-16 17:20       ` Kevin Buettner
     [not found]       ` <mailpost.1053057614.17325@news-sj1-1>
2003-05-16 22:25         ` cgd
     [not found]           ` <mailpost.1053123913.16634@news-sj1-1>
2003-05-16 22:50             ` cgd
2003-05-16 23:05               ` Kevin Buettner
     [not found]                 ` <mailpost.1053126410.17856@news-sj1-1>
2003-05-16 23:24                   ` cgd
2003-05-17  0:41                     ` Kevin Buettner
2003-05-17 20:59                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-05-20 20:18                         ` Always remote: " Andrew Cagney
2003-05-20 20:26                           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
     [not found]                       ` <mailpost.1053132070.20348@news-sj1-1>
2003-05-20 20:37                         ` cgd
2003-05-20 20:51                           ` Kevin Buettner
2003-05-20 20:52                           ` Andrew Cagney
2003-05-20 21:57                             ` cgd
2003-05-21 15:34                               ` Andrew Cagney
2003-05-21 15:41                                 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-05-21 16:38                                   ` Andrew Cagney
2003-05-21 16:58                                     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-05-21 18:32                                       ` Kevin Buettner
2003-05-21 19:15                                         ` Andrew Cagney
2003-05-21 19:45                                           ` Kevin Buettner
2003-05-22  0:32                                           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-05-23 18:39                                             ` Andrew Cagney
2003-05-23 19:02                                               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-05-23 20:45                                                 ` Andrew Cagney [this message]
2003-05-20 20:25               ` Andrew Cagney
2003-05-20 20:32                 ` cgd
2003-05-21 15:40                   ` Andrew Cagney
2003-06-15  1:44                     ` Andrew Cagney
2003-06-16 18:06                       ` cgd
2003-06-16 18:47                         ` Andrew Cagney
2003-06-15 17:23                   ` Andrew Cagney
2003-06-16 20:06                     ` cgd
2003-06-16 20:41                       ` Andrew Cagney
     [not found]                         ` <mailpost.1055796186.4097@news-sj1-1>
2003-06-17  5:04                           ` cgd
2003-06-17 14:27                             ` Andrew Cagney
     [not found]                               ` <mailpost.1055860052.3406@news-sj1-1>
2003-06-17 16:27                                 ` cgd
2003-05-21 20:58 David Anderson

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