From: Andrew Cagney <ac131313@cygnus.com>
To: Jim Blandy <jimb@cygnus.com>
Cc: Michael Snyder <msnyder@cygnus.com>, gdb-patches@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC/RFA] gdb extension for Harvard architectures
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 17:16:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3BBA58BC.5060108@cygnus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <npd745pr9m.fsf@zwingli.cygnus.com>
>> Any way, consider the intent of someone entering a sequence like:
>>
>> (gdb) x/w foo
>> 0x0
>> (gdb) x/i foo
>> nop
>> (gdb) print/x *(int*)foo
>> 0xdeadbeef
>>
>> vs
>> (gdb) print/x *(int*)foo
>> 0x0
>>
>> and where should this go:
>>
>> (gdb) set *(int*)foo = 0xdeadbeef
>>
>> This mysterious address switching strikes me as wierd.
>
>
> It *is* weird, but I think it's an intrinsic weirdness of Harvard
> architectures that it would be a disservice to conceal.
>
> Seriously, you can't protect the user from the oddities of the chip
> they're working on. And I think we shouldn't: GDB's job is to help
> people observe the behavior of the program, and tools for observation
> must be careful not to edit reality too much. It's perfectly okay to
> tell someone, "You don't understand your architecture; do it this
> way." (Rather, the manual should say this, and we should point them
> at it.)
We're also expected to make GDB user friendly.
In the above, if the user wanted to convert the function pointer into a
data pointer then they would enter:
(@data int *)foo
and who knows what the result would be.
Andrew
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-10-02 17:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-09-28 13:07 Michael Snyder
2001-09-28 13:50 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-03 10:41 ` Michael Snyder
2001-10-03 11:06 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2001-10-03 11:12 ` Michael Snyder
2001-10-03 11:19 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-03 11:49 ` Michael Snyder
2001-10-03 14:38 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-03 14:14 ` Jim Blandy
2001-10-03 14:31 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-03 16:14 ` Jim Blandy
2001-10-04 11:44 ` Michael Snyder
2001-10-04 16:28 ` Jim Blandy
2001-09-28 17:15 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-09-28 17:44 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-02 12:59 ` Jim Blandy
2001-10-02 14:13 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-02 15:09 ` Michael Snyder
2001-10-02 16:58 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-03 10:10 ` Jim Blandy
2001-10-03 12:22 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-03 15:08 ` Jim Blandy
2001-10-10 0:56 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-09 23:34 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-10 10:53 ` Jim Blandy
2001-10-10 11:17 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-10 12:15 ` Jim Blandy
2001-10-10 12:31 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-10 0:16 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-03 11:11 ` Michael Snyder
2001-10-04 12:08 ` Michael Snyder
2001-10-04 13:13 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-08 10:36 ` Michael Snyder
2001-10-10 1:25 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-11-05 11:34 ` Michael Snyder
2001-10-02 16:14 ` Jim Blandy
2001-10-02 17:16 ` Andrew Cagney [this message]
2001-10-02 17:31 ` Michael Snyder
2001-10-02 19:09 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-03 12:41 ` Jim Blandy
2001-10-03 12:52 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-03 16:13 ` Jim Blandy
2001-10-03 16:51 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2001-10-03 10:55 ` Michael Snyder
2001-10-03 11:06 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-03 11:51 ` Michael Snyder
2001-10-03 12:17 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-03 16:54 ` Michael Snyder
2001-10-03 14:33 ` Jim Blandy
2001-10-03 14:44 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-03 16:17 ` Jim Blandy
2001-10-04 13:16 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-10 0:45 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-10 10:56 ` Jim Blandy
2001-10-03 14:48 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-04 11:49 ` Michael Snyder
2001-10-03 10:49 ` Michael Snyder
2001-09-29 2:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2001-10-02 19:27 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-03 14:04 ` Jim Blandy
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