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From: Andrew Cagney <ac131313@cygnus.com>
To: Jim Blandy <jimb@cygnus.com>
Cc: Michael Snyder <msnyder@cygnus.com>, gdb-patches@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC/RFA] gdb extension for Harvard architectures
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 17:16:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3BBA58BC.5060108@cygnus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <npd745pr9m.fsf@zwingli.cygnus.com>

>> Any way, consider the intent of someone entering a sequence like:
>> 
>> (gdb) x/w foo
>> 0x0
>> (gdb) x/i foo
>> nop
>> (gdb) print/x *(int*)foo
>> 0xdeadbeef
>> 
>> vs 
>> (gdb) print/x *(int*)foo
>> 0x0
>> 
>> and where should this go:
>> 
>> (gdb) set *(int*)foo = 0xdeadbeef
>> 
>> This mysterious address switching strikes me as wierd.
> 
> 
> It *is* weird, but I think it's an intrinsic weirdness of Harvard
> architectures that it would be a disservice to conceal.
> 
> Seriously, you can't protect the user from the oddities of the chip
> they're working on.  And I think we shouldn't: GDB's job is to help
> people observe the behavior of the program, and tools for observation
> must be careful not to edit reality too much.  It's perfectly okay to
> tell someone, "You don't understand your architecture; do it this
> way."  (Rather, the manual should say this, and we should point them
> at it.)

We're also expected to make GDB user friendly.

In the above, if the user wanted to convert the function pointer into a 
data pointer then they would enter:

	(@data int *)foo

and who knows what the result would be.

Andrew



  reply	other threads:[~2001-10-02 17:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-28 13:07 Michael Snyder
2001-09-28 13:50 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-03 10:41   ` Michael Snyder
2001-10-03 11:06     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2001-10-03 11:12       ` Michael Snyder
2001-10-03 11:19         ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-03 11:49           ` Michael Snyder
2001-10-03 14:38             ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-03 14:14     ` Jim Blandy
2001-10-03 14:31       ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-03 16:14         ` Jim Blandy
2001-10-04 11:44       ` Michael Snyder
2001-10-04 16:28         ` Jim Blandy
2001-09-28 17:15 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-09-28 17:44   ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-02 12:59     ` Jim Blandy
2001-10-02 14:13       ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-02 15:09         ` Michael Snyder
2001-10-02 16:58           ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-03 10:10             ` Jim Blandy
2001-10-03 12:22               ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-03 15:08                 ` Jim Blandy
2001-10-10  0:56                   ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-09 23:34               ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-10 10:53                 ` Jim Blandy
2001-10-10 11:17                   ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-10 12:15                     ` Jim Blandy
2001-10-10 12:31                       ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-10  0:16               ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-03 11:11             ` Michael Snyder
2001-10-04 12:08             ` Michael Snyder
2001-10-04 13:13               ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-08 10:36                 ` Michael Snyder
2001-10-10  1:25                   ` Andrew Cagney
2001-11-05 11:34                     ` Michael Snyder
2001-10-02 16:14         ` Jim Blandy
2001-10-02 17:16           ` Andrew Cagney [this message]
2001-10-02 17:31             ` Michael Snyder
2001-10-02 19:09               ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-03 12:41         ` Jim Blandy
2001-10-03 12:52           ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-03 16:13             ` Jim Blandy
2001-10-03 16:51             ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2001-10-03 10:55     ` Michael Snyder
2001-10-03 11:06       ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-03 11:51         ` Michael Snyder
2001-10-03 12:17           ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-03 16:54             ` Michael Snyder
2001-10-03 14:33         ` Jim Blandy
2001-10-03 14:44           ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-03 16:17             ` Jim Blandy
2001-10-04 13:16               ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-10  0:45               ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-10 10:56                 ` Jim Blandy
2001-10-03 14:48           ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-04 11:49             ` Michael Snyder
2001-10-03 10:49   ` Michael Snyder
2001-09-29  2:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2001-10-02 19:27 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-10-03 14:04   ` Jim Blandy

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