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From: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
To: Paul Koning <paulkoning@comcast.net>,
	Craig Blackmore <craig.blackmore@embecosm.com>
Cc: Joel Brobecker <brobecker@adacore.com>,
	Andrew Burgess <andrew.burgess@embecosm.com>,
	gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] RISC-V: enable have_nonsteppable_watchpoint by default
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2018 17:39:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <21b55e3b-7d01-8c9c-54e0-dfbffc7f654c@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CB8722F6-C200-4C62-88F2-882B227ED9D8@comcast.net>


-- 
Thanks,
Pedro Alves
On 10/09/2018 06:29 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Oct 9, 2018, at 1:20 PM, Craig Blackmore <craig.blackmore@embecosm.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 08/10/18 15:51, Joel Brobecker wrote:
>>>>> I think MIPS is one.  The documentation is not entirely clear but
>>>>> that's what I remember from using it.
>>>> x86 is another.  But my question is -- do we know of any RISC-V
>>>> implementation that triggers after the write, given that the spec
>>>> says it should trigger before the write.
>> I don't know of any RISC-V implementations that trigger after the write.
>> The debug spec has 'suggested breakpoint timings' but the triggers are
>> allowed to fire at whatever point is most convenient for the implementation.
> 
> I missed that the question was specific to RISC-V.
> 
> If the spec says that timing is up to the implementation, that seems to mean GDB can't rely on the break occurring before the write -- the fact that current implementations do so isn't sufficient if later implementation are allowed to differ.
> 
> I assume GDB cares which it is, which suggests that the implementation has to tell GDB which flavor of write watchpoint it has.

Yes, which is what I had suggested earlier in the thread.  But the
thing is, no one knows about any implementation that doesn't
trap before the write.  Does the "point is most convenient"
include a few instructions/cycles after the write (more than
one insn?).  Because, there are archs like that (some ARM
variants, IIRC).  If so, before/after will not be sufficient.
Thus, I still think we should go with the simple approach until
we learn about some real implementation that needs something else.

Thanks,
Pedro Alves


  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-09 17:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-16  0:13 Craig Blackmore
2018-09-17 10:34 ` Andrew Burgess
2018-09-24 11:36   ` Craig Blackmore
2018-10-03 22:37     ` Joel Brobecker
2018-10-04 16:26       ` Craig Blackmore
2018-10-08  9:58       ` Andrew Burgess
2018-10-08 11:56         ` Pedro Alves
2018-10-08 14:25           ` Joel Brobecker
2018-10-08 14:37             ` Paul Koning
2018-10-08 14:42               ` Pedro Alves
2018-10-08 14:51                 ` Joel Brobecker
2018-10-09 17:20                   ` Craig Blackmore
2018-10-09 17:29                     ` Paul Koning
2018-10-09 17:39                       ` Pedro Alves [this message]
2018-10-23 10:34                     ` Andrew Burgess
2018-10-08 14:50               ` Andreas Schwab
2018-09-17 12:54 ` Pedro Alves
2018-09-17 13:34   ` Andrew Burgess
2018-10-08 11:29     ` Pedro Alves

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