From: "Ulrich Weigand" <uweigand@de.ibm.com>
To: alves.ped@gmail.com (Pedro Alves)
Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org, jan.kratochvil@redhat.com,
sergiodj@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [rfc] Options for "info mappings" etc. (Re: [PATCH] Implement new `info core mappings' command)
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 19:54:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201201051953.q05JrUDS025048@d06av02.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F05E9C8.9060706@gmail.com> from "Pedro Alves" at Jan 05, 2012 06:19:52 PM
Pedro Alves wrote:
> On 01/05/2012 06:02 PM, Ulrich Weigand wrote:
> > I'm wondering: How can I distinguish the "magic 42000" from
> > a regular PID 42000 ?
>
> AFAIK, there's no such thing as a 42000 PID; PIDs on Linux are limited
> to 16-bit.
See my reply to Mark; this is no longer true in general these days.
> > In particular, with Linux native targets, "pid" is what getpid () returns;
> > "lwp" is the Linux task ID -- which is equal to the pid for single-threaded
> > processes, and "tid" is the value of "pthread_t" for the thread.
>
> Ah. I see the confusion. That's no longer the case for a couple years.
> We only store the LWP id in the ptid. The TID is always empty. We don't need
> the pthread_id, given Linux's 1:1 thread model.
Ah right, I missed that.
> > Now, with the remote target, "pid" seems to be the magic 42000; "lwp" is
> > never used, and "tid" is used for the thread ID used with the remote
> > protocol -- and when using gdbserver, the latter is actually the LWP ID
> > / Linux task ID.
>
> Right. So in reality, only ever one of the tid or the lwpid fields is
> non-zero. And the one that is non-zero is the LWP id we want.
Well, I guess one could implement some heuristics along those lines
that do indeed work with Linux native and gdbserver targets.
But this would still make a number of assumptions about how those fields
are used -- which may be true at the moment, but not guaranteed.
In particular, it seems to me that the remote protocol specification
considers TID values to be defined by the remote side; the host side
should only use them as identifiers without interpreting them. While
gdbserver does use the LWPID here, I don't think it is guaranteed that
other implementations of the remote protocol do the same, even on
Linux targets (i.e. where linux-tdep files get used).
So all in all, this still looks a violation of abstraction layers
to me, which is the main reason why I advocated going back to the
TARGET_OBJECT_PROC approach ...
Bye,
Ulrich
--
Dr. Ulrich Weigand
GNU Toolchain for Linux on System z and Cell BE
Ulrich.Weigand@de.ibm.com
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Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-10-26 21:08 [PATCH] Implement new `info core mappings' command Sergio Durigan Junior
2011-10-26 21:25 ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2011-10-27 7:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-27 18:09 ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2011-10-29 19:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-31 0:34 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-31 7:00 ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2011-10-31 8:13 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-31 12:57 ` Pedro Alves
2011-11-01 11:54 ` [patch] `info proc ' completion [Re: [PATCH] Implement new `info core mappings' command] Jan Kratochvil
2011-11-01 16:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-03 14:12 ` [patch] `info proc *' help fix [Re: [patch] `info proc ' completion] Jan Kratochvil
2011-11-03 16:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-03 17:07 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-11-03 18:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-03 18:25 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-11-02 18:30 ` [patch] `info proc ' completion [Re: [PATCH] Implement new `info core mappings' command] Pedro Alves
2011-11-02 18:48 ` [commit] " Jan Kratochvil
2011-11-03 20:01 ` [PATCH] Implement new `info core mappings' command Sergio Durigan Junior
2011-11-04 10:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-04 16:27 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-11-08 1:49 ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2011-11-08 21:47 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-11-09 20:32 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-11-16 4:10 ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2011-11-21 16:15 ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2011-11-23 16:32 ` [rfc] Options for "info mappings" etc. (Re: [PATCH] Implement new `info core mappings' command) Ulrich Weigand
2011-11-23 23:37 ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2011-12-01 19:51 ` Ulrich Weigand
2011-12-05 12:59 ` Pedro Alves
2011-12-05 15:02 ` Ulrich Weigand
2011-12-06 16:01 ` Pedro Alves
2011-12-06 17:19 ` Ulrich Weigand
2011-12-07 16:29 ` Pedro Alves
2011-12-07 17:24 ` Pedro Alves
2011-12-07 20:14 ` Ulrich Weigand
2011-12-09 13:28 ` Pedro Alves
2011-12-09 14:10 ` Pedro Alves
2011-12-20 23:08 ` Ulrich Weigand
2011-12-21 22:36 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-12-22 16:15 ` Ulrich Weigand
2012-01-05 16:02 ` Pedro Alves
2012-01-05 18:03 ` Ulrich Weigand
2012-01-05 18:20 ` Pedro Alves
2012-01-05 19:54 ` Ulrich Weigand [this message]
2012-01-06 6:41 ` Joel Brobecker
2012-01-06 12:29 ` Pedro Alves
2012-01-06 12:27 ` Pedro Alves
2012-01-09 15:44 ` Ulrich Weigand
2012-01-11 16:38 ` Pedro Alves
2012-01-11 18:32 ` Ulrich Weigand
2012-01-05 18:37 ` Mark Kettenis
2012-01-05 19:35 ` Ulrich Weigand
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-04-06 3:28 [PATCH 0/4 v2] Implement support for SystemTap probes on userspace Sergio Durigan Junior
2012-04-06 3:32 ` [PATCH 1/4 v2] Refactor internal variable mechanism Sergio Durigan Junior
2012-04-06 3:36 ` [PATCH 2/4 v2] Implement new features needed for handling SystemTap probes Sergio Durigan Junior
2012-04-11 19:06 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-04-11 22:14 ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2012-04-11 23:33 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-04-06 3:37 ` [PATCH 4/4 v2] Documentation and testsuite changes Sergio Durigan Junior
2012-04-06 9:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-09 21:37 ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2012-04-06 4:11 ` [PATCH 3/4 v2] Use longjmp and exception probes when available Sergio Durigan Junior
2011-04-04 3:09 [PATCH 4/6] Implement support for SystemTap probes Sergio Durigan Junior
2011-04-04 19:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-06 20:20 ` Tom Tromey
2011-04-06 20:52 ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2011-04-07 2:41 ` Yao Qi
2011-04-07 3:32 ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2011-04-07 17:04 ` Tom Tromey
2011-04-11 3:21 ` Yao Qi
2011-04-08 12:38 ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2011-04-11 3:52 ` Yao Qi
2011-08-12 15:45 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-08-12 17:22 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2011-08-12 21:33 ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2011-04-19 16:42 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-05-07 19:36 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-05-07 19:54 ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2012-05-07 19:58 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-05-07 20:26 ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2012-05-07 20:38 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-05-08 1:36 ` Sergio Durigan Junior
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