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From: Joel Brobecker <brobecker@adacore.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org, Andrew STUBBS <andrew.stubbs@st.com>,
		Jim Blandy <jimb@red-bean.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Alternate approach to keeping convenience variables
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 18:41:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060127184109.GA1457@adacore.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <u7j8leevl.fsf@gnu.org>

> >     GDB developers seem to have developed an allergy to C macros that
> >     I just don't understand.  They're not _inherently_ obfuscating
> >     or evil!  They can be both useful and elegant.
> 
> FWIW, I never understood the ``macros are bad, m'kay?'' policy,
> either.

Well, it is clear to me that a unilateral decision against macros might
be a bit too extreme. I think that some of the macro usage in GDB could
be advantageously replaced with something better, though.

I don't have the luxury to always debug on platforms where dwarf2 is
available. So I can't print the value of a macro in the debugger. When
I debug some code and see a function call in the form of the macro,
I can't inspect a function pointer variable, I have to step into the
code to follow it. Same for contant macros. You can't take the address
of a macro either. Even with dwarf2, I don't know how much people use
this new feature that allows us to access macros from the debugger.

There are cases where macros a the best solution too. I found the new
try/catch mechanism a huge improvement over the catch_error abstraction.
A nice additional layer to make programing easier. Same for the
ALL_OBJFILE-like macros. They make the code simpler to write without
propagating too much the details about the structure.

So I welcome the usage of macros. But not without discrimination.

-- 
Joel


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-01-27 18:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-21 22:05 [PATCH] keeping convenience variables (take 2) Andrew STUBBS
2005-11-22  4:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-22  8:43 ` Jim Blandy
2005-11-22 19:27   ` Andrew STUBBS
2005-12-10  4:46     ` [RFC] Alternate approach to keeping convenience variables Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-12-10  5:07       ` Jim Blandy
2005-12-10  8:24         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-12-10 22:20           ` Jim Blandy
2005-12-11 18:12             ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-11 19:17       ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-23 22:29         ` Jim Blandy
2006-01-24 11:44           ` Andrew STUBBS
2006-01-24 18:41             ` Jim Blandy
2006-01-24 18:43               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-01-24 19:16                 ` Jim Blandy
2006-01-24 19:24                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-01-25  0:13                     ` Jim Blandy
2006-01-24 19:45                   ` Andrew STUBBS
2006-01-04 12:17       ` Andrew STUBBS
2006-01-04 17:00         ` Jim Blandy
2006-01-04 17:48           ` Andrew STUBBS
2006-01-04 18:37             ` Jim Blandy
2006-01-22 21:04               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-01-22 21:31       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-01-23 22:46         ` Jim Blandy
2006-01-27 17:53         ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-27 18:12           ` Jim Blandy
2006-01-27 18:29             ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-27 18:41           ` Joel Brobecker [this message]
2006-02-01 23:14         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-02-02  4:18           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-02-06 22:14             ` Daniel Jacobowitz

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