From: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Mark Kettenis <kettenis@gnu.org>
Cc: drow@false.org, jjohnstn@redhat.com, gdb-patches@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFA]: Modified Watchthreads Patch
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 16:49:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <01c4dfa1$Blat.v2.2.2$2ee980c0@zahav.net.il> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200412111433.iBBEXqpN007235@elgar.sibelius.xs4all.nl> (message from Mark Kettenis on Sat, 11 Dec 2004 15:33:52 +0100 (CET))
> Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 15:33:52 +0100 (CET)
> From: Mark Kettenis <kettenis@gnu.org>
> CC: drow@false.org, jjohnstn@redhat.com, gdb-patches@sources.redhat.com
>
> Personally I think that it's better to declare watchpoints in
> multi-threaded programs as unsupported. Then add a sane interface for
> debugging threads and watchpoints to the kernel, before revisiting the
> issue in GDB. I mean, it's like the Linux kernel is no longer Open
> Source.
I wasn't aware the situation was that bad, but if it is, I cannot
agree more.
> In addition, proliferation of observers' use will sooner or later
> raise the issue of the order of the observer invocation, since we lack
> a machinery for invoking a series of observers in a controlled manner:
> we cannot control the order of their invocation and we cannot tell GDB
> to stop invoking any additional observers. The current machinery
> assumes that each observer is orthogonal to others in its side
> effects; what if this assumption doesn't hold?
>
> I think we should take a different viewpoint here. The current
> machinery doesn't *assume* that each observer is orthogonal, it's the
> *definition* of the interface.
First, this definition should be spelled out in the documentation.
But even if it is, it's dangerous to rely on programmers working
independently to never step on each other's feet.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-12-11 16:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-12-10 4:24 Jeff Johnston
2004-12-10 13:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-10 14:21 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-12-10 18:01 ` Jeff Johnston
2004-12-24 11:05 ` Michael Snyder
2005-01-07 0:23 ` jjohnstn
2004-12-10 23:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-10 23:31 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-12-10 19:10 ` Jeff Johnston
2004-12-10 22:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-23 22:32 ` Michael Snyder
2004-12-24 14:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-10 20:03 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-12-10 20:30 ` Jeff Johnston
2004-12-10 20:47 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-12-10 22:18 ` Jeff Johnston
2004-12-10 23:57 ` Jeff Johnston
2004-12-11 0:31 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-12-11 1:28 ` Jeff Johnston
2004-12-11 14:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-11 16:56 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-12-11 18:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-11 18:06 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-12-11 19:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-11 19:30 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-12-12 5:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-11 21:54 ` Mark Kettenis
2004-12-11 14:53 ` Mark Kettenis
2004-12-11 16:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-11 2:04 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-12-11 16:11 ` Mark Kettenis
2004-12-10 23:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-10 23:10 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-12-10 23:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-10 23:52 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-12-11 11:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-11 14:49 ` Mark Kettenis
2004-12-11 16:48 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-12-11 17:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-11 17:53 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-12-11 18:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-11 18:50 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-12-11 19:06 ` Mark Kettenis
2004-12-11 19:07 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-12-11 16:49 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2004-12-11 16:37 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-12-11 17:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-11 17:38 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-12-11 18:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-11 18:10 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-01-13 19:22 ` Jeff Johnston
2005-02-11 1:57 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-02-11 18:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-02-11 18:31 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-02-12 21:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-11 19:35 Ulrich Weigand
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