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From: Yury Gribov <y.gribov@samsung.com>
To: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>, Doug Evans <dje@google.com>
Cc: chet.ramey@case.edu, bug-readline@gnu.org,
	Vyacheslav Barinov <v.barinov@samsung.com>,
	Yury Usishchev <y.usishchev@samsung.com>,
	"gdb@sourceware.org" <gdb@sourceware.org>,
	Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Bug-readline] [PATCH] Enable visibility annotations
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 10:55:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57176010.6060100@samsung.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5717579B.1020302@redhat.com>

On 04/20/2016 01:19 PM, Pedro Alves wrote:
> On 04/20/2016 10:45 AM, Yury Gribov wrote:
>> On 04/20/2016 12:22 PM, Pedro Alves wrote:
>
>>> - Claim that the symbols may no longer be available in a
>>>     future release.
>>
>> You mean just email respective package maintainers?
>
> I was thinking readline's CHANGES / release notes.
>
> Emailing respective package maintainers / filing bugs with them
> doesn't hurt of course.
>
>>
>>> - Give time for packages to clean themselves up, and propose
>>>     any necessary new replacement APIs.
>>
>> This would require significant expertise in readline though...
>
> The alternative is bless the private symbols as
> public API forever...  Each package owner will know what their
> package needs from readline and why they found a need
> to (ab)use readline private symbols.  I see no way around that.

Guess that's what's going to happen (unless some motivated readline 
maintainer steps in, willing to work with various users on getting rid 
of leaked symbols).

>>> - Optionally, in the release after the next, mark the symbols
>>>     as deprecated with __attribute__((deprecated)), so packages
>>>     that abuse private symbols get a build-time warning.
>>
>> That won't help as these symbols are not present in headers anyway.  All
>> users have their own private declarations.
>
> OK.  Making it a linker warning instead,using ".gnu.warning.SYMBOL"
> sections might still work:
>
>   http://www.airs.com/blog/archives/54

Oh my, this is such a cool feature. I was actually thinking about a 
"Deprecated" attribute for ELF symbols which static/runtime linker could 
use to bark. Pushing such thing to Binutils and GCC would take ages 
though...

> Not sure it's a good idea to raise warnings without alternatives
> already in place though, thus my "Optionally".
>
> Thanks,
> Pedro Alves
>
>
>


  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-20 10:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-18 18:16 Doug Evans
2016-04-20  6:02 ` Yury Gribov
2016-04-20  9:22   ` Pedro Alves
2016-04-20  9:45     ` Yury Gribov
2016-04-20 10:19       ` Pedro Alves
2016-04-20 10:55         ` Yury Gribov [this message]
2016-04-20 15:30           ` Chet Ramey
2016-04-20 21:16 ` Chet Ramey
2016-04-22 14:43   ` Pedro Alves
2016-04-22 15:25     ` Chet Ramey
     [not found] <570F38DD.1030703@samsung.com>
     [not found] ` <570F3C7E.30005@samsung.com>
     [not found]   ` <570F7554.7070901@redhat.com>
     [not found]     ` <570FB04D.2060107@case.edu>
2016-04-14 15:19       ` Pedro Alves

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