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From: Yury Gribov <y.gribov@samsung.com>
To: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>, Doug Evans <dje@google.com>
Cc: chet.ramey@case.edu, bug-readline@gnu.org,
	Vyacheslav Barinov <v.barinov@samsung.com>,
	Yury Usishchev <y.usishchev@samsung.com>,
	"gdb@sourceware.org" <gdb@sourceware.org>,
	Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Bug-readline] [PATCH] Enable visibility annotations
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 09:45:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57174FBC.7080909@samsung.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57174A3A.80303@redhat.com>

On 04/20/2016 12:22 PM, Pedro Alves wrote:
> On 04/20/2016 07:02 AM, Yury Gribov wrote:
>
>> Pedro,
>>
>> Do you think the above is doable for gdb?
>
> I don't know -- I'm already juggling too many balls in the
> air, and I'm afraid that if that depends on me, it'll take a
> while before I'll manage to try.
>
> Since gdb's use of private symbols is not an isolated incident,
> I don't think we should try to clean up all packages that make
> use of private symbols, in a rush.  Instead, I think readline
> needs to take a staged approach:
>
> - Export all the private symbols that programs are using today.
>    Simply accept today's reality.  The dynamic symbol table of
>    libreadline.so still shrinks, precedent for visibility
>    annotations is still set, and private symbol leakage
>    is contained, because future software will no longer be
>    able to abuse all the other private symbols that are
>    not exported.

Agreed, that's my plan for now.

> - Claim that the symbols may no longer be available in a
>    future release.

You mean just email respective package maintainers?

> - Give time for packages to clean themselves up, and propose
>    any necessary new replacement APIs.

This would require significant expertise in readline though...

> - Optionally, in the release after the next, mark the symbols
>    as deprecated with __attribute__((deprecated)), so packages
>    that abuse private symbols get a build-time warning.

That won't help as these symbols are not present in headers anyway.  All 
users have their own private declarations.

> - In some future release, stop exporting the symbols.
>
>> That would of course leave the
>> problem of linking older gdb with new readline which will need to be
>> resolved by distros.
>
> Right.
>
> Thanks,
> Pedro Alves


  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-20  9:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-18 18:16 Doug Evans
2016-04-20  6:02 ` Yury Gribov
2016-04-20  9:22   ` Pedro Alves
2016-04-20  9:45     ` Yury Gribov [this message]
2016-04-20 10:19       ` Pedro Alves
2016-04-20 10:55         ` Yury Gribov
2016-04-20 15:30           ` Chet Ramey
2016-04-20 21:16 ` Chet Ramey
2016-04-22 14:43   ` Pedro Alves
2016-04-22 15:25     ` Chet Ramey
     [not found] <570F38DD.1030703@samsung.com>
     [not found] ` <570F3C7E.30005@samsung.com>
     [not found]   ` <570F7554.7070901@redhat.com>
     [not found]     ` <570FB04D.2060107@case.edu>
2016-04-14 15:19       ` Pedro Alves

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