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From: "André Pönitz" <andre.poenitz@nokia.com>
To: gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: Getting pissed off by gdb. Please help with stepping in.
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:19:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201003191120.24303.andre.poenitz@nokia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201003181953.o2IJr9MV006009@glazunov.sibelius.xs4all.nl>

On Thursday 18 March 2010 20:53:09 Mark Kettenis wrote:
> > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:38:18 +0200
> > From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> > 
> > > From: Pedro Alves <pedro@codesourcery.com>
> > > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:55:39 +0000
> > > Cc: dje@google.com,
> > >  temp@sourceboost.com
> > > 
> > > Users often find this behaviour unexpected (I've often
> > > wished GDB would behave like what the OP is suggesting too).
> > 
> > Then why don't we change the behavior to match what users expect?
> 
> Because different users expect different things.  I for example would
> be somewhat annoyed by having to issue an extra "step". 

I am regularly annoyed by stepping "unexpectedly" too far. And that's
much harder to undo then doing an extra "step".

> And the argument that this is what people that are familliar with Visual
> Studio are used to is pretty weak.  GDB users are used the GDB behaviour!

That can't be true as a universal proposition as I know at least one
counterexample ;-)

I am personally much more of a GDB than a VS user but I live in an 
environment where people switch operating systems and compilers 
on a regular base, sometimes by the hour.

Being able to transfer skills and "finger memory" between these worlds
without having to completely reboot the brain is a big time saver. Not to
mention that it one has a pretty tough standing when trying to explain
to a user why his IDE behaves completely different when he "only" switched
compilers.

Anyway, it pretty much looks like there are quite a few people not really
opposed to having the "other" behaviour. So maybe we could switch
nevertheless -- or maybe having Yet Another Flag would be a solution
that makes all of us happy?

Andre'




  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-03-19 10:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-18  2:39 temp
2010-03-18  3:00 ` Hui Zhu
2010-03-18  3:03 ` Nathan Froyd
2010-03-18  7:22 ` Doug Evans
2010-03-18  9:07   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-18 15:10     ` Doug Evans
2010-03-18 15:21       ` Pedro Alves
2010-03-18 18:33         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-18 18:55           ` Pedro Alves
2010-03-18 19:38             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-18 19:54               ` Mark Kettenis
2010-03-18 20:43                 ` Doug Evans
2010-03-18 20:51                   ` Michael Snyder
2010-03-18 21:17                     ` Pedro Alves
2010-03-18 21:12                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-18 23:37                 ` Paul Hilfinger
2010-03-19  9:51                 ` Richard Earnshaw
2010-03-19 10:41                   ` Mark Kettenis
2010-03-19 13:19                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-19 10:19                 ` André Pönitz [this message]
2010-03-18 15:28       ` Doug Evans
2010-03-18 18:31       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-18 18:37         ` Paul Koning
2010-03-18 19:06           ` Doug Evans
2010-03-18 20:48             ` Jonas Maebe
2010-03-18 13:33   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2010-03-18 14:06     ` André Pönitz
2010-03-18 14:13       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2010-03-18 14:33         ` André Pönitz
2010-03-18 14:39           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2010-03-18 14:54             ` André Pönitz
2010-03-18 15:40     ` Doug Evans
2010-03-18 17:41   ` Michael Snyder
2010-03-18 22:44 ` temp

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