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From: Vladimir Prus <vladimir@codesourcery.com>
To: Stan Shebs <stan@codesourcery.com>
Cc: Michael Snyder <msnyder@vmware.com>,
	 "gdb@sources.redhat.com" <gdb@sources.redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Tracepoint enhancements
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:14:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200811051013.32620.vladimir@codesourcery.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4910BBB1.3050800@codesourcery.com>

On Wednesday 05 November 2008 00:16:33 Stan Shebs wrote:
> Michael Snyder wrote:
> > Vladimir Prus wrote:
> >> Michael Snyder wrote:
> >
> >>> One more thing, only vaguely related...
> >>>
> >>> I've thought that if we had the ability to attach an expression
> >>> (in pcode such as we use for tracepoints) to a conditional breakpoint,
> >>> we could have the conditional evaluation be done on the target
> >>> rather than by gdb, which would be a big performance win for
> >>> conditional breakpoints or watchpoints.
> >>
> >> Yes. We want conditional tracepoints, and the condition would have to 
> >> be evaluated
> >> on the target. And if breakpoints and tracepoints are unified, both 
> >> breakpoints and
> >> tracepoints will benefit.
> >
> > Very good point.  OK, you've convinced me.
> I shall proceed on the assumption that we will make a tracepoint a kind 
> of breakpoint. This means we no longer need the special 
> enable/disable/delete commands. I think the original "trace" command 
> should remain as-is, and I'm also inclined to leave "actions" alone for 
> the moment, rather than try to merge with "commands"; while there could 
> be some useful unification, it seems like more of a sweeping change to 
> try to decide for every command, whether it could be part of a 
> tracepoint action or not. 

There's no need to do that. 'collect', 'while-stepping' and 'continue'
can be part of command set that is hardware-supported. Other commands do not.

From MI standpoint, I disagree to having independent 'commands' and 'actions'
properties -- this makes no sense in the long run, and MI is not supposed to
be breaking behaviour at random, so we cannot implement 'actions' now, and
take it back later.

> Ignore counts vs passcounts still mystify me a bit. They seem 
> conceptually similar (modulo the sense inversion), but the documentation 
> for passcounts makes it seems as though one might expect all tracing and 
> all tracepoints to be disabled once a passcount is exceeded for any one 
> of them - and I see where that might be the desired behavior, vs the 
> per-breakpoint control of ignore counts.

Yeah, this is one bit that needs further design.

- Volodya


  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-05  7:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-31 20:46 Stan Shebs
     [not found] ` <490B6CEF.2000003@vmware.com>
2008-11-01  8:40   ` Vladimir Prus
2008-11-03 18:20     ` Michael Snyder
2008-11-04 21:17       ` Stan Shebs
2008-11-05  7:14         ` Vladimir Prus [this message]
     [not found]     ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0811060523150.8468@vlab.hofr.at>
2008-11-06 18:19       ` Vladimir Prus
2008-11-03  6:38   ` Jakob Engblom
2008-11-03 18:27     ` Michael Snyder
2008-11-03 18:53       ` Jakob Engblom
2008-11-03 19:23         ` Michael Snyder
2008-11-04 14:00           ` Jakob Engblom
2008-11-04 21:37           ` Stan Shebs
2008-11-04 21:58             ` Michael Snyder
2008-11-05  9:04             ` Jakob Engblom
2008-11-03  9:12 ` Jeremy Bennett
2008-11-04 21:26   ` Stan Shebs

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