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From: "Jakob Engblom" <jakob@virtutech.com>
To: "'Michael Snyder'" <msnyder@vmware.com>
Cc: "'Stan Shebs'" <stan@codesourcery.com>, 	<gdb@sourceware.org>
Subject: RE: Tracepoint enhancements
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:53:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <010301c93de5$581d7360$08585a20$@com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <490F40CB.60205@vmware.com>

> > If by checkpoint you mean "some point inside the execution of a single
program"
> > this is also a nice fit with simulators (and I presume VmWare as well, if we
> use
> > its snapshotting ability for this).  I think this is a very good idea that
> works
> > very well with a smart remote target.
> 
> Yes, that's what I meant.  A "point in time" in the execution
> history, something that could be represented eg. by a cycle count
> or instruction count, rather than just by a PC.

I think that is a bad idea to assume there is only one time or one instruction
count in the target. It could be a multicore target with lots of CPUs running
around... so let the backend handle that in a symbolic way rather than assume
anything about what it means. 

> > The target might have its own interface for looking at such checkpoints...
so I
> > think passing name strings make the most sense.  In Simics, for example,
> > bookmarks as we call them have names and that is how we work with them.
> 
> Right -- so for you an internal representation might look like a string.
> For VMware, it would look like a pair of integers.  If we did an
> implementation linux gdbserver, in which gdbserver did the "fork
> trick" (like gdb does now), then the internal representation would
> be a process ID.
> 
> But for all of these, gdb might keep an external representation
> that just looked like a counting integer -- as it does for breakpoints
> and threads.  That way the user would have a common interface
> (eg. "restore 3"), no matter which target.

That is a decent idea. 
 
> >> Not very different from threads, actually...
> >
> > I think it is. It is a snapshot of the system state that you can back to,
not
> > really a thread. Only if you consider the odd Linux implementating with fork
et
> > al are they the same.
> 
> Sorry, I just meant "like threads in that we have a counting
> integer representation on the GDB side, even though there are
> various internal representations on the target side".

Sorry, misunderstood. Thanks.

/jakob


  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-03 18:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-31 20:46 Stan Shebs
     [not found] ` <490B6CEF.2000003@vmware.com>
2008-11-01  8:40   ` Vladimir Prus
2008-11-03 18:20     ` Michael Snyder
2008-11-04 21:17       ` Stan Shebs
2008-11-05  7:14         ` Vladimir Prus
     [not found]     ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0811060523150.8468@vlab.hofr.at>
2008-11-06 18:19       ` Vladimir Prus
2008-11-03  6:38   ` Jakob Engblom
2008-11-03 18:27     ` Michael Snyder
2008-11-03 18:53       ` Jakob Engblom [this message]
2008-11-03 19:23         ` Michael Snyder
2008-11-04 14:00           ` Jakob Engblom
2008-11-04 21:37           ` Stan Shebs
2008-11-04 21:58             ` Michael Snyder
2008-11-05  9:04             ` Jakob Engblom
2008-11-03  9:12 ` Jeremy Bennett
2008-11-04 21:26   ` Stan Shebs

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