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From: Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl>
To: drow@false.org
Cc: eliz@gnu.org, dewar@adacore.com, nickrob@snap.net.nz,
	        jan.kratochvil@redhat.com,
	Mathieu.Lacage@sophia.inria.fr,         gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Signed/unsigned character arrays are not strings
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:14:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200702272211.l1RMBVvI028239@brahms.sibelius.xs4all.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070227215316.GA26262@caradoc.them.org> (message from Daniel 	Jacobowitz on Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:53:16 -0500)

> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:53:16 -0500
> From: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@false.org>
> 
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 11:06:17PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Doesn't a similar situation exist with "unsigned int" and "int", or
> > with "unsigned long" and "long"?  And yet we don't treat them
> > differently.
> > 
> > IOW, I think it's quite expected that explicit signedness is
> > relatively rare, since in the vast majority of cases it is simply not
> > needed.  Interpreting this phenomenon as saying something about what
> > kind of data is stored is not necessarily a good idea.
> 
> I feel that this is different for two reasons.  One is that the
> situation for int and long is not the same, because "int" and "signed
> int" are the same type in C - but "char" and "signed char" are not.
> Char is explicitly of indeterminate sign.  The other is that there is
> a widespread use of "char" for string data and "signed char" or
> "unsigned char" for non-string data.

Well, "char" really is "signed char" on most machines and "unsigned
char" on others.  One way to prevent the sign-extension problems this
sometimes causes, is to explicitly use "unsigned char *" for strings.

Anyway, I'm in favour of restore the traditional gdb behaviour of
printing all three as strings.

Mark


  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-27 22:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-24 16:13 Nick Roberts
2007-02-24 20:11 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-02-24 20:53   ` Nick Roberts
2007-02-24 21:07     ` Jan Kratochvil
2007-02-25  8:00       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-02-25 19:54         ` Nick Roberts
2007-02-25 21:07     ` mathieu lacage
2007-02-26  0:45       ` Jan Kratochvil
2007-02-27  7:17         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-02-27  9:29         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-02-27 12:02           ` Nick Roberts
2007-02-27 17:06             ` Robert Dewar
2007-02-27 18:42               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-02-27 21:53                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-02-27 22:12                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-02-27 22:14                     ` Mark Kettenis [this message]
2007-02-28  0:47                       ` Paul Koning
2007-02-28  1:14                       ` Jim Blandy
2007-02-28  1:59                         ` Jim Blandy
2007-02-28  5:26                           ` Nick Roberts
2007-02-28 14:35                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-03-01  0:43                         ` Jim Blandy
2007-03-01  0:54                         ` Nick Roberts
2007-02-27 21:47               ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-02-27 22:12             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-04-10 21:59         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-02-28 13:05 pkoning
2007-03-01 11:01 ` Mark Kettenis

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