From: Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl>
To: drow@false.org
Cc: eliz@gnu.org, dewar@adacore.com, nickrob@snap.net.nz,
jan.kratochvil@redhat.com,
Mathieu.Lacage@sophia.inria.fr, gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Signed/unsigned character arrays are not strings
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:14:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200702272211.l1RMBVvI028239@brahms.sibelius.xs4all.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070227215316.GA26262@caradoc.them.org> (message from Daniel Jacobowitz on Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:53:16 -0500)
> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:53:16 -0500
> From: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@false.org>
>
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 11:06:17PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Doesn't a similar situation exist with "unsigned int" and "int", or
> > with "unsigned long" and "long"? And yet we don't treat them
> > differently.
> >
> > IOW, I think it's quite expected that explicit signedness is
> > relatively rare, since in the vast majority of cases it is simply not
> > needed. Interpreting this phenomenon as saying something about what
> > kind of data is stored is not necessarily a good idea.
>
> I feel that this is different for two reasons. One is that the
> situation for int and long is not the same, because "int" and "signed
> int" are the same type in C - but "char" and "signed char" are not.
> Char is explicitly of indeterminate sign. The other is that there is
> a widespread use of "char" for string data and "signed char" or
> "unsigned char" for non-string data.
Well, "char" really is "signed char" on most machines and "unsigned
char" on others. One way to prevent the sign-extension problems this
sometimes causes, is to explicitly use "unsigned char *" for strings.
Anyway, I'm in favour of restore the traditional gdb behaviour of
printing all three as strings.
Mark
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-02-27 22:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-02-24 16:13 Nick Roberts
2007-02-24 20:11 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-02-24 20:53 ` Nick Roberts
2007-02-24 21:07 ` Jan Kratochvil
2007-02-25 8:00 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-02-25 19:54 ` Nick Roberts
2007-02-25 21:07 ` mathieu lacage
2007-02-26 0:45 ` Jan Kratochvil
2007-02-27 7:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-02-27 9:29 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-02-27 12:02 ` Nick Roberts
2007-02-27 17:06 ` Robert Dewar
2007-02-27 18:42 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-02-27 21:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-02-27 22:12 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-02-27 22:14 ` Mark Kettenis [this message]
2007-02-28 0:47 ` Paul Koning
2007-02-28 1:14 ` Jim Blandy
2007-02-28 1:59 ` Jim Blandy
2007-02-28 5:26 ` Nick Roberts
2007-02-28 14:35 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-03-01 0:43 ` Jim Blandy
2007-03-01 0:54 ` Nick Roberts
2007-02-27 21:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-02-27 22:12 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-04-10 21:59 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-02-28 13:05 pkoning
2007-03-01 11:01 ` Mark Kettenis
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