Switch from gnats to Bugzilla?

Switch from gnats to Bugzilla?

[Christopher Faylor]

It looks like our gcc counterparts are migrating to Bugzilla.

I was wondering if it would be a good time to switch gdb to Bugzilla,
too.

IMO, Bugzilla is superior to GNATS.  The interface is more intuitive
and it can even be linked to CVS (I believe).

There is a long discussion of this subject here:

http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2002-02/msg00454.html

I'm willing to do the work if there is agreement that it is a good
thing.

cgf

Re: Switch from gnats to Bugzilla?

[Daniel Jacobowitz]

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 11:20:13PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> It looks like our gcc counterparts are migrating to Bugzilla.
> 
> I was wondering if it would be a good time to switch gdb to Bugzilla,
> too.
> 
> IMO, Bugzilla is superior to GNATS.  The interface is more intuitive
> and it can even be linked to CVS (I believe).
> 
> There is a long discussion of this subject here:
> 
> http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2002-02/msg00454.html
> 
> I'm willing to do the work if there is agreement that it is a good
> thing.

FWIW, I agree completely.

-- 
Daniel Jacobowitz                           Carnegie Mellon University
MontaVista Software                         Debian GNU/Linux Developer

Re: Switch from gnats to Bugzilla?

[Andrew Cagney]

> On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 11:20:13PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> 
>> It looks like our gcc counterparts are migrating to Bugzilla.
>> 
>> I was wondering if it would be a good time to switch gdb to Bugzilla,
>> too.
>> 
>> IMO, Bugzilla is superior to GNATS.  The interface is more intuitive
>> and it can even be linked to CVS (I believe).
>> 
>> There is a long discussion of this subject here:

Long was an understatement :-)

>> http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2002-02/msg00454.html
>> 
>> I'm willing to do the work if there is agreement that it is a good
>> thing.
> 
> 
> FWIW, I agree completely.

To do the political side step.  I'd suggest waiting until there is a 
firm decision from the GCC steering committe on a go/no-go.  If GCC 
decide to change, I can't see any reason for GDB to not follow. 
However, I've enough other headaches without trying to be the one 
blazing this particular trail.

Web-wize, yes I agree that bugzilla is better (I've too much experience 
filing mozilla bugs :-).  I think the comment about web interface 
performance is bogus.  I should know, I lived behind a 28k modem with 
 >500ms latency and survived :-)

E-mail wize, the GCC thread suggests the people on the list understand 
the issues - need to be able to submit, reply and see updates via 
e-mail.  It isn't reasonable to assume that everyone has permenant IP 
connectivity and <100ms latency.

enjoy,
Andrew

Re: Switch from gnats to Bugzilla?

[Christopher Faylor]

On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 10:56:44PM -0500, Andrew Cagney wrote:
>>On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 11:20:13PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>
>>>It looks like our gcc counterparts are migrating to Bugzilla.
>>>
>>>I was wondering if it would be a good time to switch gdb to Bugzilla,
>>>too.
>>>
>>>IMO, Bugzilla is superior to GNATS.  The interface is more intuitive
>>>and it can even be linked to CVS (I believe).
>>>
>>>There is a long discussion of this subject here:
>
>Long was an understatement :-)
>
>>>http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2002-02/msg00454.html
>>>
>>>I'm willing to do the work if there is agreement that it is a good
>>>thing.
>>
>>
>>FWIW, I agree completely.
>
>To do the political side step.  I'd suggest waiting until there is a 
>firm decision from the GCC steering committe on a go/no-go.  If GCC 
>decide to change, I can't see any reason for GDB to not follow. 
>However, I've enough other headaches without trying to be the one 
>blazing this particular trail.
>
>Web-wize, yes I agree that bugzilla is better (I've too much experience 
>filing mozilla bugs :-).  I think the comment about web interface 
>performance is bogus.  I should know, I lived behind a 28k modem with 
>>500ms latency and survived :-)
>
>E-mail wize, the GCC thread suggests the people on the list understand 
>the issues - need to be able to submit, reply and see updates via 
>e-mail.  It isn't reasonable to assume that everyone has permenant IP 
>connectivity and <100ms latency.

That's fine with me.  I've volunteered to help with this anyway, so I
figured it wouldn't be that much harder to set this up for both gdb and
gcc if/when the time comes.

If the consensus was that Bugzilla wasn't a good solution for gdb, though,
I'd only have to do one...

cgf

Re: Switch from gnats to Bugzilla?

[Elena Zannoni]

Silly question: would we migrate the existing gnats bug reports to bugzilla?

Elena


Christopher Faylor writes:
 > On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 10:56:44PM -0500, Andrew Cagney wrote:
 > >>On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 11:20:13PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
 > >>
 > >>>It looks like our gcc counterparts are migrating to Bugzilla.
 > >>>
 > >>>I was wondering if it would be a good time to switch gdb to Bugzilla,
 > >>>too.
 > >>>
 > >>>IMO, Bugzilla is superior to GNATS.  The interface is more intuitive
 > >>>and it can even be linked to CVS (I believe).
 > >>>
 > >>>There is a long discussion of this subject here:
 > >
 > >Long was an understatement :-)
 > >
 > >>>http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2002-02/msg00454.html
 > >>>
 > >>>I'm willing to do the work if there is agreement that it is a good
 > >>>thing.
 > >>
 > >>
 > >>FWIW, I agree completely.
 > >
 > >To do the political side step.  I'd suggest waiting until there is a 
 > >firm decision from the GCC steering committe on a go/no-go.  If GCC 
 > >decide to change, I can't see any reason for GDB to not follow. 
 > >However, I've enough other headaches without trying to be the one 
 > >blazing this particular trail.
 > >
 > >Web-wize, yes I agree that bugzilla is better (I've too much experience 
 > >filing mozilla bugs :-).  I think the comment about web interface 
 > >performance is bogus.  I should know, I lived behind a 28k modem with 
 > >>500ms latency and survived :-)
 > >
 > >E-mail wize, the GCC thread suggests the people on the list understand 
 > >the issues - need to be able to submit, reply and see updates via 
 > >e-mail.  It isn't reasonable to assume that everyone has permenant IP 
 > >connectivity and <100ms latency.
 > 
 > That's fine with me.  I've volunteered to help with this anyway, so I
 > figured it wouldn't be that much harder to set this up for both gdb and
 > gcc if/when the time comes.
 > 
 > If the consensus was that Bugzilla wasn't a good solution for gdb, though,
 > I'd only have to do one...
 > 
 > cgf

Re: Switch from gnats to Bugzilla?

[Christopher Faylor]

On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 11:25:04PM -0500, Elena Zannoni wrote:
>Silly question: would we migrate the existing gnats bug reports to bugzilla?

Yes.

cgf

Re: Switch from gnats to Bugzilla?

[Daniel Jacobowitz]

On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 11:25:04PM -0500, Elena Zannoni wrote:
> 
> Silly question: would we migrate the existing gnats bug reports to bugzilla?

Yep.  Daniel Berlin converted the GCC GNATS database; you can find it
under dberlin.org somewhere if you want to take a look.

-- 
Daniel Jacobowitz                           Carnegie Mellon University
MontaVista Software                         Debian GNU/Linux Developer

Re: Switch from gnats to Bugzilla?

[Daniel Berlin]

On Sun, 17 Feb 2002, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 11:25:04PM -0500, Elena Zannoni wrote:
> > 
> > Silly question: would we migrate the existing gnats bug reports to bugzilla?
> 
> Yep.  Daniel Berlin converted the GCC GNATS database; you can find it
> under dberlin.org somewhere if you want to take a look.

http://www.dberlin.org/bugzilla-2.14


I'll be back to updating the database after tuesday (Moot Court final 
brief due).

--Dan