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From: Nick Roberts <nickrob@snap.net.nz>
To: Vladimir Prus <vladimir@codesourcery.com>
Cc: gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: MI non-stop mode spec
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:13:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <18403.33887.752127.140905@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200803210858.01200.vladimir@codesourcery.com>

 > > I think there are more than three possibilities:
 > >
 > > 1) bound to the frame in which varobj is created (*).
 > > 2) bound to the selected frame (@)
 > > 3) bound to the thread in which varobj is created and 1)
 > > 4) bound to the thread in which varobj is created and 2)
 > > 5) bound to the selected thread and 1)
 > > 6) bound to the selected thread and 2)
 > >
 > > Maybe there are more, e.g, all threads (I've not really thought them
 > > through)
 > >
 > > Currently only 1) works and 2) has a broken implementation.
 > 
 > Didn't you check in a patch to make *-varobjs be found to a thread?

I submitted a patch earlier this year that stopped thinking that a variable
object had gone out of scope if the thread changed but nothing happened.

 > Furthermore, are (1) and (2) actually separate options? You cannot
 > evaluate varobj in a frame without also specifying a thread.

Hmm, perhaps I typed that too quickly, it looks like 3-6 are just
multi-threaded cases of 1 and 2, so there are four in total.

It appears that Totalview call 1) FIXED compilation scope and 2) FLOATING
compilation scope.  Gdb calls it USE_CURRENT_FRAME and USE_SELECTED_FRAME which
I find very confusing.  Particularly (as I've said before) the manual mixes the
meaning of current frame with selected frame.  With USE_SELECTED_FRAME, the
value can change without execution, e.g. after an up or down.  It would be nice
to change these enum values to USE_FIXED_FRAME and USE_FLOATING_FRAME.  WDYT?

In general I guess threads don't traverse the same frames so watch expressions
wouldn't always work for all threads. I don't know how GDB would know if they
did but I see that Totalview has something that they call a laminated view
which views variables across threads (and processes).  In fact their online
manual must be a good guideline for some of the non-stop mode spec.

Also GDB loses sense of the selected frame: if you change to a different thread
and back again you always get back to the innermost (= current) frame.  So
that makes it difficult to get USE_SELECTED_FRAME to work in the
multi-threaded case.



-- 
Nick                                           http://www.inet.net.nz/~nickrob


  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-21  9:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-19  2:49 Vladimir Prus
2008-03-19  6:26 ` Nick Roberts
2008-03-19  9:14   ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-19 10:02     ` Nick Roberts
2008-03-19 11:10       ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-19 12:30         ` Nick Roberts
2008-03-19 13:43           ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-19 20:44       ` Michael Snyder
2008-03-19 11:20     ` Bob Rossi
2008-03-19 11:16 ` Bob Rossi
2008-03-19 12:01   ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-19 13:50     ` Bob Rossi
2008-03-19 14:07       ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-19 14:33         ` Bob Rossi
2008-03-19 16:09           ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-20 18:22 ` Marc Khouzam
2008-03-20 20:02   ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-21  9:11   ` Nick Roberts
2008-03-21  9:48     ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-21 18:13       ` Nick Roberts [this message]
2008-03-22  0:33         ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-23  4:41           ` Nick Roberts
2008-03-23  5:18             ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-23  9:25               ` Nick Roberts
2008-03-24  5:44                 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-24  7:05                   ` Thread bound variable objects [was: Re: MI non-stop mode spec] Nick Roberts
2008-03-24  7:18                     ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-24 11:04                       ` Nick Roberts
2008-03-24 14:38                         ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-25  6:28                       ` Thread bound variable objects Nick Roberts
2008-03-25 11:34                         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-03-21 11:52 ` MI non-stop mode spec Vladimir Prus
2008-03-24 23:14   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-03-25 17:46     ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-22 17:33 ` Pawel Piech
2008-03-24  4:03   ` Nick Roberts
2008-03-24 17:22     ` Pawel Piech
2008-03-24 20:23       ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-25  2:14       ` Nick Roberts
2008-03-24 18:38   ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-24 21:25     ` Pawel Piech
2008-03-24 21:46       ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-24 22:28         ` Pawel Piech
2008-03-25 12:30           ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-25 18:30             ` Pawel Piech
2008-03-27 14:13               ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-27 19:39                 ` Pawel Piech
2008-03-25 21:28             ` Nick Roberts
2008-03-26 13:03               ` Pawel Piech
2008-03-25  1:00   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-03-25 18:18     ` Pawel Piech
2008-03-30 21:36       ` Pawel Piech

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