From: Nick Roberts <nickrob@snap.net.nz>
To: Vladimir Prus <vladimir@codesourcery.com>
Cc: gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: MI non-stop mode spec
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:13:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <18403.33887.752127.140905@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200803210858.01200.vladimir@codesourcery.com>
> > I think there are more than three possibilities:
> >
> > 1) bound to the frame in which varobj is created (*).
> > 2) bound to the selected frame (@)
> > 3) bound to the thread in which varobj is created and 1)
> > 4) bound to the thread in which varobj is created and 2)
> > 5) bound to the selected thread and 1)
> > 6) bound to the selected thread and 2)
> >
> > Maybe there are more, e.g, all threads (I've not really thought them
> > through)
> >
> > Currently only 1) works and 2) has a broken implementation.
>
> Didn't you check in a patch to make *-varobjs be found to a thread?
I submitted a patch earlier this year that stopped thinking that a variable
object had gone out of scope if the thread changed but nothing happened.
> Furthermore, are (1) and (2) actually separate options? You cannot
> evaluate varobj in a frame without also specifying a thread.
Hmm, perhaps I typed that too quickly, it looks like 3-6 are just
multi-threaded cases of 1 and 2, so there are four in total.
It appears that Totalview call 1) FIXED compilation scope and 2) FLOATING
compilation scope. Gdb calls it USE_CURRENT_FRAME and USE_SELECTED_FRAME which
I find very confusing. Particularly (as I've said before) the manual mixes the
meaning of current frame with selected frame. With USE_SELECTED_FRAME, the
value can change without execution, e.g. after an up or down. It would be nice
to change these enum values to USE_FIXED_FRAME and USE_FLOATING_FRAME. WDYT?
In general I guess threads don't traverse the same frames so watch expressions
wouldn't always work for all threads. I don't know how GDB would know if they
did but I see that Totalview has something that they call a laminated view
which views variables across threads (and processes). In fact their online
manual must be a good guideline for some of the non-stop mode spec.
Also GDB loses sense of the selected frame: if you change to a different thread
and back again you always get back to the innermost (= current) frame. So
that makes it difficult to get USE_SELECTED_FRAME to work in the
multi-threaded case.
--
Nick http://www.inet.net.nz/~nickrob
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-03-21 9:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-19 2:49 Vladimir Prus
2008-03-19 6:26 ` Nick Roberts
2008-03-19 9:14 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-19 10:02 ` Nick Roberts
2008-03-19 11:10 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-19 12:30 ` Nick Roberts
2008-03-19 13:43 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-19 20:44 ` Michael Snyder
2008-03-19 11:20 ` Bob Rossi
2008-03-19 11:16 ` Bob Rossi
2008-03-19 12:01 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-19 13:50 ` Bob Rossi
2008-03-19 14:07 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-19 14:33 ` Bob Rossi
2008-03-19 16:09 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-20 18:22 ` Marc Khouzam
2008-03-20 20:02 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-21 9:11 ` Nick Roberts
2008-03-21 9:48 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-21 18:13 ` Nick Roberts [this message]
2008-03-22 0:33 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-23 4:41 ` Nick Roberts
2008-03-23 5:18 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-23 9:25 ` Nick Roberts
2008-03-24 5:44 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-24 7:05 ` Thread bound variable objects [was: Re: MI non-stop mode spec] Nick Roberts
2008-03-24 7:18 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-24 11:04 ` Nick Roberts
2008-03-24 14:38 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-25 6:28 ` Thread bound variable objects Nick Roberts
2008-03-25 11:34 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-03-21 11:52 ` MI non-stop mode spec Vladimir Prus
2008-03-24 23:14 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-03-25 17:46 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-22 17:33 ` Pawel Piech
2008-03-24 4:03 ` Nick Roberts
2008-03-24 17:22 ` Pawel Piech
2008-03-24 20:23 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-25 2:14 ` Nick Roberts
2008-03-24 18:38 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-24 21:25 ` Pawel Piech
2008-03-24 21:46 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-24 22:28 ` Pawel Piech
2008-03-25 12:30 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-25 18:30 ` Pawel Piech
2008-03-27 14:13 ` Vladimir Prus
2008-03-27 19:39 ` Pawel Piech
2008-03-25 21:28 ` Nick Roberts
2008-03-26 13:03 ` Pawel Piech
2008-03-25 1:00 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-03-25 18:18 ` Pawel Piech
2008-03-30 21:36 ` Pawel Piech
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