From: Jim Blandy <jimb@codesourcery.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl, uweigand@de.ibm.com,
brobecker@adacore.com, msnyder@specifix.com,
gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [RFC/RFA?] Should break FILE:LINENO skip prologue?
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:38:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3ir1snvqy.fsf@codesourcery.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <uejchozs8.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 17 Jan 2008 06:13:11 +0200")
Eli Zaretskii <eliz at gnu.org> writes:
>> Cc: Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl>, uweigand@de.ibm.com,
>> brobecker@adacore.com, msnyder@specifix.com,
>> gdb-patches@sourceware.org
>> From: Jim Blandy <jimb@codesourcery.com>
>> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:36:11 -0800
>>
>> GDB allows 'FILENAME'::FUNCTION in C expressions:
>
> Thanks.
>
> But if "break *'FILENAME'::FUNCTION" works, why is it wrong to expect
> that "break *FILENAME:FUNCTION" should also work. None of them is a
> valid C expression, it's just something GDB does to help the user,
> right?
Our goal here is for GDB to provide memorable, predictable, terse ways
for people to describe locations for breakpoints, listings, and so on.
There should be terse, memorable ways to specify every form one needs
in daily use. The '*EXPRESSION' form is an escape hatch for those
cases that fall outside daily use.
Setting breakpoints in functions before stack frame and argument setup
instructions is an obscure corner case that only people writing or
generating assembly code (say, compiler authors) or people working on
GDB need. The '*EXPRESSION' escape hatch syntax is adequate for such
users.
To make 'break *FILENAME:FUNCTION' work, there are two approaches:
- We could extend GDB's C grammar to treat 'FILENAME:FUNCTION' as a
valid expression. However, if not quoted, many FILENAMES would be
ambiguous with other C expressions --- for example, is foo.c a
filename, or a reference to the member 'c' of a structure or union
'foo'? If that problem could be resolved, the use of ':' would
still be ambiguous with the ?: operator.
- We could extend the linespec syntax to recognize
'*FILENAME:FUNCTION' specially, and not try to parse
'FILENAME:FUNCTION' as an expression.
But who does this serve? The people setting breakpoints at function
entry points won't find this helpful, as it just introduces
ambiguities and special cases into a grammar that already does the job
for them. And other users don't want to set breakpoints there.
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Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-09 15:18 Joel Brobecker
2008-01-09 19:11 ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-09 19:16 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-01-09 19:46 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-09 20:38 ` Eric Botcazou
2008-01-10 11:01 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-10 11:45 ` Eric Botcazou
2008-01-10 21:47 ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-10 22:10 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-11 5:36 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-11 11:28 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-11 18:22 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-11 21:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-11 21:14 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-12 12:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-12 14:30 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-12 12:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-12 14:35 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-12 15:32 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-12 15:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-12 16:03 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-12 16:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-12 16:18 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-12 16:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-12 17:58 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-01-13 4:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-13 6:25 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-13 6:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-13 10:36 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-14 23:02 ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-15 3:57 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-14 22:57 ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-13 9:21 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-13 10:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-14 22:25 ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-14 22:33 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-14 10:30 ` Pierre Muller
2008-01-14 12:25 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-01-14 23:00 ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-15 17:13 ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-14 22:17 ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-14 22:50 ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-15 12:29 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-01-15 12:39 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-15 17:15 ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-15 18:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-15 21:40 ` Ulrich Weigand
2008-01-15 23:24 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-01-16 4:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-16 9:13 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-01-16 18:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-16 21:13 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-01-16 4:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-16 4:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-16 10:35 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-16 18:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-16 21:36 ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-17 4:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-17 4:18 ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-17 9:47 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-17 21:51 ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-17 22:09 ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-17 23:42 ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-17 18:38 ` Jim Blandy [this message]
2008-01-19 13:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-20 15:03 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-20 19:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-21 2:27 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-26 19:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-16 21:25 ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-16 2:10 ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-11 20:32 ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-11 20:36 ` Eric Botcazou
2008-01-10 22:21 ` Eric Botcazou
2008-01-10 14:06 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-01-10 17:06 ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-09 19:44 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-09 19:16 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-09 20:01 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-09 20:25 ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-09 20:35 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-09 21:05 ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-10 4:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-10 4:16 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-10 9:29 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-01-11 10:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-10 10:39 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-10 15:39 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-10 15:51 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-01-11 10:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-10 15:46 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-01-10 21:49 ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-10 17:15 ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-31 22:17 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-01-31 22:59 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-02-02 1:20 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-02-27 19:48 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-02-27 20:52 ` Joel Brobecker
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