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From: Michael Snyder <msnyder@specifix.com>
To: Joel Brobecker <brobecker@adacore.com>
Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [RFC/RFA?] Should break FILE:LINENO skip prologue?
Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 20:25:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1199910284.14654.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080109151745.GA13181@adacore.com>

OK, I'll be the devil's advocate.

By habit and actual practice, if I tell gdb to set a breakpoint
at the opening brace of a function, it is because I want it to
stop before the prologue.

If I tell gdb to set a breakpoint AFTER local variable x
is initialized, but BEFORE local variable y is initialized,
as in the following example...

  int foo()
  {
     int x = 12;
     char *y = "bar";

it is because I want gdb to stop after x is initialized
and before y is initialized.

If gdb decided not to LET me stop in the middle of the
prologue, I would be exceedingly pissed off.


On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 07:17 -0800, Joel Brobecker wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I would like to revive a discussion that started sometime in 2002.
> The idea is the following: When breaking on a given source line, if
> that line is inside a function prologue, skip the prologue (using
> the linetable to do so).
> 
> In our experience, we have found that most users are not aware of
> the existence of function prologues. When they break on the line
> where a function is defined, they think the debugger is doing the
> same thing than it would do if it inserted the breakpoint using
> that function name.  Unfortunately, it doesn't and they end up
> having problems trying to print parameter values [1].
> 
> When we discussed this back in 2002, there wasn't an overwhelming
> support for this proposal, but I think that we had mild support.
> Both Apple and AdaCore have decided to implement this, and JimB
> was also supporting the idea. I searched the archives, and I didn't
> really find any negative support. I personally think that it's
> friendlier and is usually what the typical user expects.
> 
> The only counter argument, IMO, is the fact that we're changing a
> behavior that has been there for a long time... But the current
> behavior is currently undocumented (or at least it wasn't in 2002
> :-), and users can use the "break *FUNC_NAME" syntax if they don't
> want the prologue to be skipped. Like Jim, I think this syntax
> makes better sense - in fact, I have always naturally used the
> *FUNC_NAME syntax in these cases, never really used line numbers.
> 
> So I am making this proposal again, with the hope of reaching
> a decision, either yes or no. Or, as a compromise, we can control
> the behavior through as setting. I would argue for the default value
> to change the behavior, since: Deliberately breaking inside the
> prologue is a relatively uncommon operation; and the users who expect
> to break inside the prologue know what they are doing and will quickly
> find a way around.
> 
> Here is a prototype that implements the proposal without the switch.
> Surprisingly, the code has evolved in a way that it is now very
> easy to implement.  Adding the switch would be very simple too.
> 
> 2008-01-09  Joel Brobecker  <brobecker@adacore.com>
> 
>         * breakpoint.c (skip_prologue_sal): New function.
>         (resolve_sal_pc): Adjust SAL past prologue if the SAL was
>         computed from a line number.
> 
> I can write a dedicated testcase or test for this, but I don't think
> this will be necessary.  A couple of testcases (ending-run.exp and
> mi-break.exp) insert breakpoints on the line where a function is
> defined, so they already test that this patch has some effect
> (understand the testcases will need to be adjusted or they will
> have some FAILS).
> 
> Tested on x86-linux. All the changes in the testsuite are expected.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,


  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-09 20:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-09 15:18 Joel Brobecker
2008-01-09 19:11 ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-09 19:16   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-01-09 19:46     ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-09 20:38       ` Eric Botcazou
2008-01-10 11:01         ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-10 11:45           ` Eric Botcazou
2008-01-10 21:47             ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-10 22:10               ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-11  5:36                 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-11 11:28                   ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-11 18:22                     ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-11 21:07                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-11 21:14                         ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-12 12:18                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-12 14:30                             ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-12 12:25                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-12 14:35                             ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-12 15:32                             ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-12 15:55                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-12 16:03                                 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-12 16:26                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-12 16:18                                 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-12 16:57                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-12 17:58                                     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-01-13  4:22                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-13  6:25                                         ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-13  6:54                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-13 10:36                                             ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-14 23:02                                               ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-15  3:57                                                 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-14 22:57                                             ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-13  9:21                                         ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-13 10:19                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-14 22:25                                             ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-14 22:33                                               ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-14 10:30                                           ` Pierre Muller
2008-01-14 12:25                                             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-01-14 23:00                                           ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-15 17:13                                             ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-14 22:17                                         ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-14 22:50                               ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-15 12:29                                 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-01-15 12:39                                   ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-15 17:15                                     ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-15 18:47                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-15 21:40                                       ` Ulrich Weigand
2008-01-15 23:24                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2008-01-16  4:21                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-16  9:13                                             ` Andreas Schwab
2008-01-16 18:49                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-16 21:13                                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-01-16  4:15                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-16  4:20                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-16 10:35                                           ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-16 18:57                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-16 21:36                                               ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-17  4:13                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-17  4:18                                                   ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-17  9:47                                                     ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-17 21:51                                                       ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-17 22:09                                                         ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-17 23:42                                                           ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-17 18:38                                                   ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-19 13:47                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-20 15:03                                                       ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-20 19:50                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-21  2:27                                                           ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-26 19:58                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-16 21:25                                         ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-16  2:10                                   ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-11 20:32                   ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-11 20:36                     ` Eric Botcazou
2008-01-10 22:21               ` Eric Botcazou
2008-01-10 14:06           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-01-10 17:06             ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-09 19:44   ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-09 19:16 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-09 20:01   ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-09 20:25 ` Michael Snyder [this message]
2008-01-09 20:35   ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-09 21:05     ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-10  4:16       ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-10  9:29         ` Andreas Schwab
2008-01-11 10:35           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-10 10:39         ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-10 15:39           ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-10 15:51           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-01-11 10:44             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-10  4:16       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-10 15:46       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-01-10 21:49         ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-10 17:15   ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-31 22:17 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-01-31 22:59   ` Joel Brobecker
2008-02-02  1:20   ` Joel Brobecker
2008-02-27 19:48     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-02-27 20:52       ` Joel Brobecker

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