From: Michael Snyder <msnyder@specifix.com>
To: Joel Brobecker <brobecker@adacore.com>
Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [RFC/RFA?] Should break FILE:LINENO skip prologue?
Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 20:25:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1199910284.14654.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080109151745.GA13181@adacore.com>
OK, I'll be the devil's advocate.
By habit and actual practice, if I tell gdb to set a breakpoint
at the opening brace of a function, it is because I want it to
stop before the prologue.
If I tell gdb to set a breakpoint AFTER local variable x
is initialized, but BEFORE local variable y is initialized,
as in the following example...
int foo()
{
int x = 12;
char *y = "bar";
it is because I want gdb to stop after x is initialized
and before y is initialized.
If gdb decided not to LET me stop in the middle of the
prologue, I would be exceedingly pissed off.
On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 07:17 -0800, Joel Brobecker wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I would like to revive a discussion that started sometime in 2002.
> The idea is the following: When breaking on a given source line, if
> that line is inside a function prologue, skip the prologue (using
> the linetable to do so).
>
> In our experience, we have found that most users are not aware of
> the existence of function prologues. When they break on the line
> where a function is defined, they think the debugger is doing the
> same thing than it would do if it inserted the breakpoint using
> that function name. Unfortunately, it doesn't and they end up
> having problems trying to print parameter values [1].
>
> When we discussed this back in 2002, there wasn't an overwhelming
> support for this proposal, but I think that we had mild support.
> Both Apple and AdaCore have decided to implement this, and JimB
> was also supporting the idea. I searched the archives, and I didn't
> really find any negative support. I personally think that it's
> friendlier and is usually what the typical user expects.
>
> The only counter argument, IMO, is the fact that we're changing a
> behavior that has been there for a long time... But the current
> behavior is currently undocumented (or at least it wasn't in 2002
> :-), and users can use the "break *FUNC_NAME" syntax if they don't
> want the prologue to be skipped. Like Jim, I think this syntax
> makes better sense - in fact, I have always naturally used the
> *FUNC_NAME syntax in these cases, never really used line numbers.
>
> So I am making this proposal again, with the hope of reaching
> a decision, either yes or no. Or, as a compromise, we can control
> the behavior through as setting. I would argue for the default value
> to change the behavior, since: Deliberately breaking inside the
> prologue is a relatively uncommon operation; and the users who expect
> to break inside the prologue know what they are doing and will quickly
> find a way around.
>
> Here is a prototype that implements the proposal without the switch.
> Surprisingly, the code has evolved in a way that it is now very
> easy to implement. Adding the switch would be very simple too.
>
> 2008-01-09 Joel Brobecker <brobecker@adacore.com>
>
> * breakpoint.c (skip_prologue_sal): New function.
> (resolve_sal_pc): Adjust SAL past prologue if the SAL was
> computed from a line number.
>
> I can write a dedicated testcase or test for this, but I don't think
> this will be necessary. A couple of testcases (ending-run.exp and
> mi-break.exp) insert breakpoints on the line where a function is
> defined, so they already test that this patch has some effect
> (understand the testcases will need to be adjusted or they will
> have some FAILS).
>
> Tested on x86-linux. All the changes in the testsuite are expected.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-09 20:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-09 15:18 Joel Brobecker
2008-01-09 19:11 ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-09 19:16 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-01-09 19:46 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-09 20:38 ` Eric Botcazou
2008-01-10 11:01 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-10 11:45 ` Eric Botcazou
2008-01-10 21:47 ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-10 22:10 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-11 5:36 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-11 11:28 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-11 18:22 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-11 21:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-11 21:14 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-12 12:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-12 14:30 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-12 12:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-12 14:35 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-12 15:32 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-12 15:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-12 16:03 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-12 16:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-12 16:18 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-12 16:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-12 17:58 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-01-13 4:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-13 6:25 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-13 6:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-13 10:36 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-14 23:02 ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-15 3:57 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-14 22:57 ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-13 9:21 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-13 10:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-14 22:25 ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-14 22:33 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-14 10:30 ` Pierre Muller
2008-01-14 12:25 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-01-14 23:00 ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-15 17:13 ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-14 22:17 ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-14 22:50 ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-15 12:29 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-01-15 12:39 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-15 17:15 ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-15 18:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-15 21:40 ` Ulrich Weigand
2008-01-15 23:24 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-01-16 4:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-16 9:13 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-01-16 18:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-16 21:13 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-01-16 4:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-16 4:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-16 10:35 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-16 18:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-16 21:36 ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-17 4:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-17 4:18 ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-17 9:47 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-17 21:51 ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-17 22:09 ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-17 23:42 ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-17 18:38 ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-19 13:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-20 15:03 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-20 19:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-21 2:27 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-26 19:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-16 21:25 ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-16 2:10 ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-11 20:32 ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-11 20:36 ` Eric Botcazou
2008-01-10 22:21 ` Eric Botcazou
2008-01-10 14:06 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-01-10 17:06 ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-09 19:44 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-09 19:16 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-09 20:01 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-09 20:25 ` Michael Snyder [this message]
2008-01-09 20:35 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-09 21:05 ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-10 4:16 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-10 9:29 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-01-11 10:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-10 10:39 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-10 15:39 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-10 15:51 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-01-11 10:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-10 4:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-10 15:46 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-01-10 21:49 ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-10 17:15 ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-31 22:17 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-01-31 22:59 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-02-02 1:20 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-02-27 19:48 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-02-27 20:52 ` Joel Brobecker
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