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From: Joel Brobecker <brobecker@adacore.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl>, gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [RFC/RFA?] Should break FILE:LINENO skip prologue?
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 14:30:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080112142859.GD9143@adacore.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <uy7avqltz.fsf@gnu.org>

> In that case, I think we will need an appropriate change for the
> manual as well, as right now, "break *my_procedure" and "break 2" are
> equivalent (at least AFAIK).

I agree and that was in my plans (I believe that any change of behavior
deserves an associated documentation update). I am also planning on
adding a NEWS entry as well.

>     `break FUNCTION'
> 	 Set a breakpoint at entry to function FUNCTION.  When using source
> 	 languages that permit overloading of symbols, such as C++,
> 	 FUNCTION may refer to more than one possible place to break.
> 	 *Note Breakpoint Menus: Breakpoint Menus, for a discussion of that
> 	 situation.
> 
> This doesn't say anything about function prologs.
> 
>     `break *ADDRESS'
> 	 Set a breakpoint at address ADDRESS.  You can use this to set
> 	 breakpoints in parts of your program which do not have debugging
> 	 information or source files.
> 
> This doesn't say anything about the possible distinction between
> *my_procedure as the address and 2 as its source line number.

I think that this is because function prologues are, in the typical
users view, an implementation detail. It's not a concept of the
language, it's more an ABI-related concept. Dare I say that a lot
of engineers nowdays don't know what an ABI is?... (I'll admit that
I learnt about this after I completed my training)

I don't know exactly how to document this behavior change yet, but
I think we need to be careful not to confuse the average joe-hacker
by being too technical too soon.

-- 
Joel


  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-12 14:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-09 15:18 Joel Brobecker
2008-01-09 19:11 ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-09 19:16   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-01-09 19:46     ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-09 20:38       ` Eric Botcazou
2008-01-10 11:01         ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-10 11:45           ` Eric Botcazou
2008-01-10 21:47             ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-10 22:10               ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-11  5:36                 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-11 11:28                   ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-11 18:22                     ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-11 21:07                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-11 21:14                         ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-12 12:18                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-12 14:30                             ` Joel Brobecker [this message]
2008-01-12 12:25                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-12 14:35                             ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-12 15:32                             ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-12 15:55                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-12 16:03                                 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-12 16:26                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-12 16:18                                 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-12 16:57                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-12 17:58                                     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-01-13  4:22                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-13  6:25                                         ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-13  6:54                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-13 10:36                                             ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-14 23:02                                               ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-15  3:57                                                 ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-14 22:57                                             ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-13  9:21                                         ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-13 10:19                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-14 22:25                                             ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-14 22:33                                               ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-14 10:30                                           ` Pierre Muller
2008-01-14 12:25                                             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-01-14 23:00                                           ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-15 17:13                                             ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-14 22:17                                         ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-14 22:50                               ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-15 12:29                                 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-01-15 12:39                                   ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-15 17:15                                     ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-15 18:47                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-15 21:40                                       ` Ulrich Weigand
2008-01-15 23:24                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2008-01-16  4:21                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-16  9:13                                             ` Andreas Schwab
2008-01-16 18:49                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-16 21:13                                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-01-16  4:15                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-16  4:20                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-16 10:35                                           ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-16 18:57                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-16 21:36                                               ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-17  4:13                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-17  4:18                                                   ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-17  9:47                                                     ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-17 21:51                                                       ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-17 22:09                                                         ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-17 23:42                                                           ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-17 18:38                                                   ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-19 13:47                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-20 15:03                                                       ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-20 19:50                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-21  2:27                                                           ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-26 19:58                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-16 21:25                                         ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-16  2:10                                   ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-11 20:32                   ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-11 20:36                     ` Eric Botcazou
2008-01-10 22:21               ` Eric Botcazou
2008-01-10 14:06           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-01-10 17:06             ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-09 19:44   ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-09 19:16 ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-09 20:01   ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-09 20:25 ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-09 20:35   ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-09 21:05     ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-10  4:16       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-10  4:16       ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-10  9:29         ` Andreas Schwab
2008-01-11 10:35           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-10 10:39         ` Mark Kettenis
2008-01-10 15:39           ` Joel Brobecker
2008-01-10 15:51           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-01-11 10:44             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-10 15:46       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-01-10 21:49         ` Michael Snyder
2008-01-10 17:15   ` Jim Blandy
2008-01-31 22:17 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-01-31 22:59   ` Joel Brobecker
2008-02-02  1:20   ` Joel Brobecker
2008-02-27 19:48     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-02-27 20:52       ` Joel Brobecker

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