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From: Tom Tromey <tromey@redhat.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@false.org>,
	bauerman@br.ibm.com,         gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [RFA][patch 1/9] Yet another respin of the patch with initial	Python support
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:26:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3abg4eew3.fsf@fleche.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <umyk44lus.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat\, 26 Jul 2008 20\:05\:31 +0300")

>>>>> "Eli" == Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

Eli> So are you saying that adding Python will enable features that are
Eli> beyond user-defined commands (a.k.a. scripting)?  If so, what are
Eli> those features?

The python programmer will be able to access nearly everything.  We
already have (on the branch) representations for threads, breakpoints,
commands, internal functions (a new feature), blocks, frames, symbols,
symbol tables, and values.  We'll add more, too (at least types) --
but we're going through a round of cleanup-and-submit first.

>> For example, we can pass a value or type and get back a friendlier
>> display value or type; the long-requested C++/STL pretty-printing
>> support.

Eli> Maybe I'm missing something, because I don't see how this is different
Eli> from what we have now.  For example, the .gdbinit file distributed
Eli> with Emacs already pretty-prints Emacs Lisp data types, as do the
Eli> various GDB extensions for printing Qt data types that float around.
Eli> They are all written in the current scripting CLI language.  How will
Eli> Python be different in this department?

It will be integrated into "print" and will work with MI as well.

Lots of projects distribute .gdbinit-style files like this.  They all
are lacking in various ways, due to shortcomings of gdb's command
language.  The Python approach will fix all of this.

Pretty-printing is just one feature though.  I want to push things
much farther.

Tom


  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-26 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 147+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-29 15:59 [RFC][patch 0/9] Python support in GDB Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-04-29 15:59 ` [RFC][patch 5/9] permit GDB commands implemented in Python Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-04-29 15:59 ` [RFC][patch 9/9] export threads to Python Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-04-29 15:59 ` [RFC][patch 8/9] export symtab mechanism " Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-04-29 15:59 ` [RFC][patch 6/9] export frames " Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-04-29 15:59 ` [RFC][patch 3/9] export hooks mechanism " Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-04-29 21:29   ` Tom Tromey
2008-04-30 18:27     ` Joel Brobecker
2008-04-30 21:30       ` Tom Tromey
2008-05-27 18:22         ` Tom Tromey
2008-04-30 18:29     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-04-30 23:00       ` Tom Tromey
2008-05-29  7:55   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-05-30 14:59     ` Tom Tromey
2008-06-15 22:53       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-06-15 22:58         ` Tom Tromey
2008-06-16  3:22           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-06-17 18:13             ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-06-17 22:20               ` Joel Brobecker
2008-06-23 17:58                 ` Tom Tromey
2008-04-29 16:08 ` [RFC][patch 7/9] export block and symbol " Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-04-29 18:11 ` [RFC][patch 4/9] export breakpoints " Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-04-29 18:15 ` [RFC][patch 1/9] initial Python support Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-05-05  8:12   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-05-05 14:39     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-05-05 14:46       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-05-05 16:50         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-05-06  2:38           ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-05-11 22:24           ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-05-11 22:26             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-05-12 20:33               ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-05-12 20:39                 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-05-12 21:00                   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-05-29  0:29   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-05-30 13:07     ` Function syntax (Was: [RFC][patch 1/9] initial Python support) Tom Tromey
2008-06-08 15:24       ` Doug Evans
2008-06-08 15:32         ` Function syntax Tom Tromey
2008-06-08 18:21       ` Function syntax (Was: [RFC][patch 1/9] initial Python support) Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-06-09 13:48         ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-06-09 18:43           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-06-10  0:24             ` Function syntax Tom Tromey
2008-06-10  0:04           ` Tom Tromey
2008-06-11  0:04             ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-06-10  0:00         ` Tom Tromey
2008-05-30 14:47     ` [RFC][patch 1/9] initial Python support Tom Tromey
2008-06-15 22:35     ` thiagoju
2008-06-23 17:36       ` Tom Tromey
2008-07-06 17:28         ` Tom Tromey
2008-07-08  4:12           ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-07-15  7:38       ` [RFA] " Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-07-15 17:19         ` Tom Tromey
2008-07-15 18:33           ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-07-15 19:03             ` Tom Tromey
2008-07-16  7:14               ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-07-16 14:39           ` Tom Tromey
2008-07-16 22:02             ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-07-18 19:50               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-18 23:24                 ` Tom Tromey
2008-07-19  0:45                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-19 19:50                 ` [RFA] iRe: " Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-07-19 21:13                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-19 22:13                     ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-07-20 23:47                   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-07-21  2:03                     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-23 17:46                       ` [obvious] Wipe out CONFIG_INITS Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-07-20 22:43                 ` [RFA] Re: [RFC][patch 1/9] initial Python support Tom Tromey
2008-07-21  1:59                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-21 15:29                 ` [RFA][patch 1/9] Yet another respin of the patch with " Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-07-21 16:47                   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-07-26 13:07                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-26 13:43                     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-26 14:02                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-26 14:42                         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-26 17:06                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-26 17:26                             ` Tom Tromey [this message]
2008-07-26 19:21                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-26 17:40                             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-26 17:10                           ` Tom Tromey
2008-07-26 17:40                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-26 18:00                               ` Tom Tromey
2008-07-26 18:29                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-26 18:45                                   ` Tom Tromey
2008-07-26 19:34                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-30 14:59                                       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-07-30 17:57                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-04  4:44                                           ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-08-04 19:18                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-05  3:42                                               ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-07-26 17:04                     ` Tom Tromey
2008-07-26 17:35                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-26 17:42                         ` Tom Tromey
2008-07-26 19:18                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-04  2:52                             ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-08-04  3:22                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-04 12:15                                 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-08-04 19:50                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-05  2:08                                     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-08-05  2:41                                       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-08-05  3:32                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-05 12:19                                         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-08-05 18:10                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-05 18:23                                             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-08-05 18:50                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-05 18:58                                                 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-26 19:20                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-26 18:11                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-26 18:30                         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-26 19:26                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-01 20:04                           ` Tom Tromey
2008-08-02 17:38                             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-08-02 17:50                               ` Tom Tromey
2008-08-02 19:00                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-05  4:19                         ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-08-05 18:14                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-06  5:35                             ` [RFA][patch 1/9] Initial Python support, patch du jour Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-08-06 18:24                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-06 19:53                                 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-08-04  4:44                     ` [RFA][patch 1/9] Yet another respin of the patch with initial Python support Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-08-04 19:22                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-05  1:24                         ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-08-02 17:41                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-08-02 19:02                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-02 19:07                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-15 18:01         ` [RFA] Re: [RFC][patch 1/9] " Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-04-29 18:17 ` [RFC][patch 2/9] export values mechanism to Python Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-05-29  1:23   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-06-03  0:19     ` Tom Tromey
2008-06-03 13:04       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-06-03 14:52         ` Tom Tromey
2008-07-07  6:03       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-07-07 23:44         ` Tom Tromey
2008-07-26  2:55           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-26 17:17             ` Tom Tromey
2008-07-26 17:41               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-07-30  3:01                 ` Tom Tromey
2008-07-30 14:26                   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-08-13  6:45         ` [python] acessing struct elements Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-08-13 12:38           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2008-08-13 20:38             ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-08-17 20:16           ` Tom Tromey
2008-04-29 18:38 ` [RFC][patch 0/9] Python support in GDB Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-29 20:37   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-04-29 21:22     ` Tom Tromey
2008-04-30  7:54       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-30 19:38         ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2008-04-30 19:52           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-05-02 18:30 ` Vladimir Prus

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