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From: Thiago Jung Bauermann <thiago.bauermann@linaro.org>
To: Luis <luis.machado.foss@gmail.com>
Cc: srinath.parvathaneni@arm.com,  gdb-patches@sourceware.org,
	guinevere@redhat.com,  Ezra.Sitorus@arm.com,
	 Matthieu.Longo@arm.com, simark@simark.ca,
	 Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/5] [PATCH 1/5] gdb/aarch64: Add POR_EL0 register support for FEAT_S1POE
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2026 06:20:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bjbvlhey.fsf@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e1f92c58-3b55-492b-bfe6-462322cbcc64@gmail.com> (Luis's message of "Tue, 21 Jul 2026 20:53:29 +0100")

Luis <luis.machado.foss@gmail.com> writes:

> On 14/07/2026 21:15, srinath.parvathaneni@arm.com wrote:
>> From: Srinath Parvathaneni <srinath.parvathaneni@arm.com>
>> Add support for the FEAT_S1POE POR_EL0 register on AArch64.
>> This patch adds POR_EL0 to the AArch64 register set and reads/writes it
>> using the NT_ARM_POE ptrace regset.
>
> Just a general comment, but por_el0 is unfortunate naming for a userspace register. But
> alas, it's been done that way in the Linux kernel as far as I can tell.

Do you mean the _el0 suffix? We had a discussion about it here:

https://inbox.sourceware.org/gdb-patches/87a4sgikk4.fsf@linaro.org/

Srinath responded:

> That said, after discussing this with kernel/KVM developers, there are valid
> debugging scenarios (e.g. KGDB or guest debugging via KVM/QEMU) where exposing
> `POR_EL0`, `POR_EL1`, and `POR_EL2` simultaneously would be useful. This seems
> like a broader GDB register naming issue rather than something specific to
> FEAT_S1POE.

And Marc Zyngier too:

> It would certainly make our life easier if GDB was in general adopting
> the architecture nomenclature.
> 
> It is probably fine to have a "shorthand" such as POR for POR_EL0, but
> I'd like to make sure that it is possible to unambiguously target the
> correct register for the cases where we have to debug a full guest
> (which is something people actively do using the QEMU GDB stubs).

So as Marc says perhaps we could have an alias por for por_el0, like we
have lr for x30, or (in the other direction) x31 for sp?

>> diff --git a/gdb/features/aarch64-poe.c b/gdb/features/aarch64-poe.c
>> new file mode 100644
>> index 00000000000..4bd795e9fe6
>> --- /dev/null
>> +++ b/gdb/features/aarch64-poe.c
>> @@ -0,0 +1,68 @@
>> +/* THIS FILE IS GENERATED.  -*- buffer-read-only: t -*- vi:set ro:
>> +  Original: aarch64-poe.xml */
>> +
>> +#include "gdbsupport/tdesc.h"
>> +
>> +static int
>> +create_feature_aarch64_poe (struct target_desc *result, long regnum)
>> +{
>> +  struct tdesc_feature *feature;
>> +
>> +  feature = tdesc_create_feature (result, "org.gnu.gdb.aarch64.poe");
>> +  tdesc_type_with_fields *type_with_fields;
>> +  type_with_fields = tdesc_create_enum (feature, "por_el0_fmt", 4);
>> +  tdesc_add_enum_value (type_with_fields, 0, "---");
>> +  tdesc_add_enum_value (type_with_fields, 1, "r--");
>> +  tdesc_add_enum_value (type_with_fields, 2, "--x");
>> +  tdesc_add_enum_value (type_with_fields, 3, "r-x");
>> +  tdesc_add_enum_value (type_with_fields, 4, "-w-");
>> +  tdesc_add_enum_value (type_with_fields, 5, "rw-");
>> +  tdesc_add_enum_value (type_with_fields, 6, "-wx");
>> +  tdesc_add_enum_value (type_with_fields, 7, "rwx");
>> +  tdesc_add_enum_value (type_with_fields, 8, "???");
>> +  tdesc_add_enum_value (type_with_fields, 9, "???");
>> +  tdesc_add_enum_value (type_with_fields, 10, "???");
>> +  tdesc_add_enum_value (type_with_fields, 11, "???");
>> +  tdesc_add_enum_value (type_with_fields, 12, "???");
>> +  tdesc_add_enum_value (type_with_fields, 13, "???");
>> +  tdesc_add_enum_value (type_with_fields, 14, "???");
>> +  tdesc_add_enum_value (type_with_fields, 15, "???");
>
> I'm not a fan of this. Have we considered alternatives like pseudo-registers that map
> to/from the raw POR value?
>
> It feels like this is working around a gdb deficiency of not having a proper type, and the
> right way to solve this would be extending gdb in some way.
>
> With a pseudo-register all of this would be interiorized in gdb, and we would be left with
> only the raw POR value of 64 bits.
>
>> +
>> +  type_with_fields = tdesc_create_flags (feature, "por_el0_flags", 8);
>> +  tdesc_type *field_type;
>> +  field_type = tdesc_named_type (feature, "por_el0_fmt");
>> +  tdesc_add_typed_bitfield (type_with_fields, "P15", 60, 63, field_type);
>> +  field_type = tdesc_named_type (feature, "por_el0_fmt");
>> +  tdesc_add_typed_bitfield (type_with_fields, "P14", 56, 59, field_type);
>> +  field_type = tdesc_named_type (feature, "por_el0_fmt");
>> +  tdesc_add_typed_bitfield (type_with_fields, "P13", 52, 55, field_type);
>> +  field_type = tdesc_named_type (feature, "por_el0_fmt");
>> +  tdesc_add_typed_bitfield (type_with_fields, "P12", 48, 51, field_type);
>> +  field_type = tdesc_named_type (feature, "por_el0_fmt");
>> +  tdesc_add_typed_bitfield (type_with_fields, "P11", 44, 47, field_type);
>> +  field_type = tdesc_named_type (feature, "por_el0_fmt");
>> +  tdesc_add_typed_bitfield (type_with_fields, "P10", 40, 43, field_type);
>> +  field_type = tdesc_named_type (feature, "por_el0_fmt");
>> +  tdesc_add_typed_bitfield (type_with_fields, "P9", 36, 39, field_type);
>> +  field_type = tdesc_named_type (feature, "por_el0_fmt");
>> +  tdesc_add_typed_bitfield (type_with_fields, "P8", 32, 35, field_type);
>> +  field_type = tdesc_named_type (feature, "por_el0_fmt");
>> +  tdesc_add_typed_bitfield (type_with_fields, "P7", 28, 31, field_type);
>> +  field_type = tdesc_named_type (feature, "por_el0_fmt");
>> +  tdesc_add_typed_bitfield (type_with_fields, "P6", 24, 27, field_type);
>> +  field_type = tdesc_named_type (feature, "por_el0_fmt");
>> +  tdesc_add_typed_bitfield (type_with_fields, "P5", 20, 23, field_type);
>> +  field_type = tdesc_named_type (feature, "por_el0_fmt");
>> +  tdesc_add_typed_bitfield (type_with_fields, "P4", 16, 19, field_type);
>> +  field_type = tdesc_named_type (feature, "por_el0_fmt");
>> +  tdesc_add_typed_bitfield (type_with_fields, "P3", 12, 15, field_type);
>> +  field_type = tdesc_named_type (feature, "por_el0_fmt");
>> +  tdesc_add_typed_bitfield (type_with_fields, "P2", 8, 11, field_type);
>> +  field_type = tdesc_named_type (feature, "por_el0_fmt");
>> +  tdesc_add_typed_bitfield (type_with_fields, "P1", 4, 7, field_type);
>> +  field_type = tdesc_named_type (feature, "por_el0_fmt");
>> +  tdesc_add_typed_bitfield (type_with_fields, "P0", 0, 3, field_type);
>
> Likewise for the above. This is hardcoding the interpretation of the individual bitfields
> into the XML.
>
> Maybe Thiago has a different opinion here.

The interpretation is fixed by the architecture, so hardcoding it makes
sense IMHO. But I don't feel strongly about this.

-- 
Thiago
(he/him)

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-25  6:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-14 20:15 [PATCH v3 0/5] " srinath.parvathaneni
2026-07-14 20:15 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] [PATCH 1/5] " srinath.parvathaneni
2026-07-21 19:53   ` Luis
2026-07-25  6:20     ` Thiago Jung Bauermann [this message]
2026-07-25  7:37       ` Luis
2026-07-25 18:44         ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2026-07-21 20:25   ` Luis
2026-07-23  9:29     ` Srinath Parvathaneni
2026-07-25  6:13       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2026-07-25  7:29         ` Luis
2026-07-14 20:15 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] [PATCH 2/5] gdb: Improve SIGSEGV diagnostics for POE faults srinath.parvathaneni
2026-07-21 20:30   ` Luis
2026-07-22  9:41     ` Matthieu Longo
2026-07-22 23:11       ` Luis
2026-07-23  9:03         ` Srinath Parvathaneni
2026-07-25  7:39           ` Luis
2026-07-14 20:15 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] [PATCH 3/5] gdbserver/aarch64: Add POR_EL0 register support srinath.parvathaneni
2026-07-14 20:15 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] [PATCH 4/5] gdb/aarch64: Add core file support for FEAT_S1POE srinath.parvathaneni
2026-07-21 20:14   ` Luis
2026-07-14 20:15 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] [PATCH 5/5] gdb/testsuite: Add FEAT_S1POE testcases srinath.parvathaneni
2026-07-21 20:38   ` Luis
2026-07-25  6:23   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann

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