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From: Jim Ingham <jingham@apple.com>
To: gdb-patches@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] breakpoints and function prologues...
Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 13:37:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6AF1E816-A97C-11D6-B045-00039379E320@> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1028439120.16228.ezmlm@sources.redhat.com>

I agree with Jim here.  I think most folks are actually surprised to 
find that if they break on the "{" beginning a function (or indeed 
anywhere before the first executable line of code) then their backtrace 
will not be correct.  Understanding why this is so requires you to "pay 
attention to the man behind the curtain", and that we breaks the 
illusion that source code maps straight-forwardly onto the running 
program.  Where this extra knowledge is helpful (like when debugging 
optimized code) it is fine to require folks to have it.  But here, 
where it really doesn't do any good, I think it is just confusing.  
And, of course, it causes big heartburn for GUIs the varobj code, as I 
said earlier.

I doubt that "{" breaks on the prologue is a crucial feature of gdb, 
and given that there are other ways to do this, I don't think it is 
really worth supporting...

Jim


On Saturday, August 3, 2002, at 10:32  PM, 
gdb-patches-digest-help@sources.redhat.com wrote:

> From: Jim Blandy <jimb@redhat.com>
> Date: Fri Aug 2, 2002  11:48:26  PM US/Pacific
> To: Michael Snyder <msnyder@redhat.com>
> Cc: Joel Brobecker <brobecker@gnat.com>, gdb-patches@sources.redhat.com
> Subject: Re: [RFC] breakpoints and function prologues...
>
>
>
> Michael Snyder <msnyder@redhat.com> writes:
>>> So I'd support changing `break LINENO' to always skip the prologue.
>>
>> I would not.  It's changing a behavior that people have
>> become accustomed to.
>
> Well, that alone isn't a good reason to keep a behavior, is it?  I
> mean, it's pretty confusing.  And there's a good alternative.
>
>
>
--
Jim Ingham                                   jingham@apple.com
Developer Tools - gdb
Apple Computer


       reply	other threads:[~2002-08-06 20:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1028439120.16228.ezmlm@sources.redhat.com>
2002-08-06 13:37 ` Jim Ingham [this message]
2002-08-14 22:57   ` Andrew Cagney
2002-08-15  6:53     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-08-22 15:33       ` Michael Snyder
2002-08-22 16:19         ` Joel Brobecker
2002-08-23 11:27         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
     [not found] <1030059293.13128.ezmlm@sources.redhat.com>
2002-08-23 10:50 ` Jim Ingham
2002-08-23 11:34   ` Andrew Cagney
2002-08-24 18:31     ` Jim Ingham
2002-08-25  7:45       ` Andrew Cagney
2002-08-25  8:21         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-08-25 15:24         ` Jim Ingham
2002-08-23 11:45   ` Michael Snyder
2002-08-23 11:48     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
     [not found] <1029446396.15888.ezmlm@sources.redhat.com>
2002-08-15 15:26 ` Jim Ingham
2002-08-15 18:05   ` Andrew Cagney
2002-08-15 19:11     ` Joel Brobecker
2002-08-16 10:02       ` Jim Blandy
2002-08-16 10:17         ` Joel Brobecker
2002-08-15 19:18     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-08-16  9:34     ` Jim Blandy
2002-08-16 11:34     ` Jim Ingham
2002-08-22 15:38     ` Michael Snyder
2002-08-22 15:56       ` Andrew Cagney
2002-08-22 16:34         ` Michael Snyder
     [not found] <1027384602.26926.ezmlm@sources.redhat.com>
2002-07-22 18:54 ` Jim Ingham
2002-07-22 22:49   ` Joel Brobecker
2002-07-22 17:36 Joel Brobecker
2002-07-23 16:53 ` Jim Blandy
2002-07-26  6:12   ` Joel Brobecker
2002-07-29 13:34     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-07-29 23:57     ` Jim Blandy
2002-07-30 20:18       ` Joel Brobecker
2002-07-31 13:55         ` Jim Blandy
2002-08-01 15:44           ` Michael Snyder
2002-08-02 23:48             ` Jim Blandy

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