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From: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
To: Joel Brobecker <brobecker@adacore.com>
Cc: "Tom Tromey" <tromey@redhat.com>,
	"André Pönitz" <andre.poenitz@mathematik.tu-chemnitz.de>,
	gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] New GDB/MI command "-info-gdb-mi-command"
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 14:40:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <528631F2.40408@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131115123905.GW3481@adacore.com>

On 11/15/2013 12:39 PM, Joel Brobecker wrote:

>> Yeah.  I have no problem with your proposal.  There's actually one
>> case where it works, and '^error,code="unknown-command"' does not,
>> which is when a command works and has effects without options.  In such
>> cases, you can't probe for the command's existence without causing
>> the (side) effects.
> 
> I think the intent was not to provide a probing mechanism, but
> rather to provide an approach where the FE just fires the command
> when it needs to, and then fallback on a CLI-based approach if
> detecting an 'unknown-command' error.

Yeah.  Just thinking about how we'd cover all bases if we took
only one approach.

> But, on the other hand, I am thinking that some FEs might still
> want to probe ahead of time, for instance if they do not wish to
> provide a fallback mechanism (thus disabling the relevant parts
> of the GUI ahead of time); 

Right, that's the reasoning I usually throw around too.
It's the same reasoning we probe things in the RSP upfront
with qSupported.  I now notice that the -list-features docu
doesn't talk about that explicitly, but it could be nice to
suggest it.

> or even if it is easier programatically
> for them to probe, instead of having to handle this specific error.

>>> People seem to have reacted
>>> more positively to the idea of try-and-fallback approach, shall we go
>>> with Pedro's idea (without the "invalid switch"/"usage" part)?
>>
>> If I had infinite time, I'd go for all of the above.  Command to
>> probe existence of commands, and make ^error indicate both
>> unknown command, and bad usage.  :-)
> 
> I don't have infinite amount of time, but the first 2 (new GDB/MI
> command and new ^error for unknown commands) are fairly small tasks,
> so I'm happy sending patches for both. That way, we get the best
> of both worlds, without must cost, I think, in terms of extra
> maintenance, since both patches would be pretty small, and localized.

That sounds good to me.

> For invalid usage, I could add that to my list, but that'll have
> to be next year... (/me wishes I would say that on Dec 31st...)

:-)

-- 
Pedro Alves


  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-15 14:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-10 17:16 [RFC] Add ada-exception-catchpoints to -list-features command output Joel Brobecker
2013-11-10 22:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-12 11:25   ` Joel Brobecker
2013-11-12 16:39     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-13  3:02       ` Joel Brobecker
2013-11-11 15:22 ` Tom Tromey
2013-11-12  9:18   ` Joel Brobecker
2013-11-12 12:11   ` [RFC] New GDB/MI command "-info-gdb-mi-command" Joel Brobecker
2013-11-12 17:04     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-12 17:48       ` Joel Brobecker
2013-11-12 18:34         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-13  3:19           ` Joel Brobecker
2013-11-12 21:17     ` André Pönitz
2013-11-13  2:47       ` Joel Brobecker
2013-11-14  0:36         ` André Pönitz
2013-11-14  9:48           ` Joel Brobecker
2013-11-14 18:31             ` André Pönitz
2013-11-14 19:03         ` Pedro Alves
2013-11-14 19:37           ` Pedro Alves
2013-11-14 20:30             ` Tom Tromey
2013-11-15  5:35               ` Joel Brobecker
2013-11-15 12:39                 ` Pedro Alves
2013-11-15 14:38                   ` Joel Brobecker
2013-11-15 14:40                     ` Pedro Alves [this message]
2013-11-18 17:12                       ` [RFA GDB/MI] Help determine if GDB/MI command exists or not Joel Brobecker
2013-11-18 17:13                         ` [RFA 1/2] New GDB/MI command "-info-gdb-mi-command" Joel Brobecker
2013-11-18 17:29                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-19  4:35                             ` Joel Brobecker
2013-11-19 16:11                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-02  3:26                               ` Joel Brobecker
2013-12-02  3:51                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-02  4:41                                   ` Joel Brobecker
2013-12-02 14:53                               ` Pedro Alves
2013-12-03  4:06                                 ` pushed: " Joel Brobecker
2013-11-18 17:21                         ` [RFA 2/2] Add "undefined-command" error code at end of ^error result Joel Brobecker
2013-11-18 17:29                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-19  6:02                             ` Joel Brobecker
2013-11-19 16:16                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-19 11:19                           ` Pedro Alves
2013-11-20  3:46                             ` Joel Brobecker
2013-12-03  4:08                               ` pushed: " Joel Brobecker
2013-11-19 15:05                         ` [RFA GDB/MI] Help determine if GDB/MI command exists or not Pedro Alves

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