From: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
To: Joel Brobecker <brobecker@adacore.com>
Cc: "Tom Tromey" <tromey@redhat.com>,
"André Pönitz" <andre.poenitz@mathematik.tu-chemnitz.de>,
gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] New GDB/MI command "-info-gdb-mi-command"
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 14:40:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <528631F2.40408@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131115123905.GW3481@adacore.com>
On 11/15/2013 12:39 PM, Joel Brobecker wrote:
>> Yeah. I have no problem with your proposal. There's actually one
>> case where it works, and '^error,code="unknown-command"' does not,
>> which is when a command works and has effects without options. In such
>> cases, you can't probe for the command's existence without causing
>> the (side) effects.
>
> I think the intent was not to provide a probing mechanism, but
> rather to provide an approach where the FE just fires the command
> when it needs to, and then fallback on a CLI-based approach if
> detecting an 'unknown-command' error.
Yeah. Just thinking about how we'd cover all bases if we took
only one approach.
> But, on the other hand, I am thinking that some FEs might still
> want to probe ahead of time, for instance if they do not wish to
> provide a fallback mechanism (thus disabling the relevant parts
> of the GUI ahead of time);
Right, that's the reasoning I usually throw around too.
It's the same reasoning we probe things in the RSP upfront
with qSupported. I now notice that the -list-features docu
doesn't talk about that explicitly, but it could be nice to
suggest it.
> or even if it is easier programatically
> for them to probe, instead of having to handle this specific error.
>>> People seem to have reacted
>>> more positively to the idea of try-and-fallback approach, shall we go
>>> with Pedro's idea (without the "invalid switch"/"usage" part)?
>>
>> If I had infinite time, I'd go for all of the above. Command to
>> probe existence of commands, and make ^error indicate both
>> unknown command, and bad usage. :-)
>
> I don't have infinite amount of time, but the first 2 (new GDB/MI
> command and new ^error for unknown commands) are fairly small tasks,
> so I'm happy sending patches for both. That way, we get the best
> of both worlds, without must cost, I think, in terms of extra
> maintenance, since both patches would be pretty small, and localized.
That sounds good to me.
> For invalid usage, I could add that to my list, but that'll have
> to be next year... (/me wishes I would say that on Dec 31st...)
:-)
--
Pedro Alves
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-11-15 14:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-11-10 17:16 [RFC] Add ada-exception-catchpoints to -list-features command output Joel Brobecker
2013-11-10 22:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-12 11:25 ` Joel Brobecker
2013-11-12 16:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-13 3:02 ` Joel Brobecker
2013-11-11 15:22 ` Tom Tromey
2013-11-12 9:18 ` Joel Brobecker
2013-11-12 12:11 ` [RFC] New GDB/MI command "-info-gdb-mi-command" Joel Brobecker
2013-11-12 17:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-12 17:48 ` Joel Brobecker
2013-11-12 18:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-13 3:19 ` Joel Brobecker
2013-11-12 21:17 ` André Pönitz
2013-11-13 2:47 ` Joel Brobecker
2013-11-14 0:36 ` André Pönitz
2013-11-14 9:48 ` Joel Brobecker
2013-11-14 18:31 ` André Pönitz
2013-11-14 19:03 ` Pedro Alves
2013-11-14 19:37 ` Pedro Alves
2013-11-14 20:30 ` Tom Tromey
2013-11-15 5:35 ` Joel Brobecker
2013-11-15 12:39 ` Pedro Alves
2013-11-15 14:38 ` Joel Brobecker
2013-11-15 14:40 ` Pedro Alves [this message]
2013-11-18 17:12 ` [RFA GDB/MI] Help determine if GDB/MI command exists or not Joel Brobecker
2013-11-18 17:13 ` [RFA 1/2] New GDB/MI command "-info-gdb-mi-command" Joel Brobecker
2013-11-18 17:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-19 4:35 ` Joel Brobecker
2013-11-19 16:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-02 3:26 ` Joel Brobecker
2013-12-02 3:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-02 4:41 ` Joel Brobecker
2013-12-02 14:53 ` Pedro Alves
2013-12-03 4:06 ` pushed: " Joel Brobecker
2013-11-18 17:21 ` [RFA 2/2] Add "undefined-command" error code at end of ^error result Joel Brobecker
2013-11-18 17:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-19 6:02 ` Joel Brobecker
2013-11-19 16:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-19 11:19 ` Pedro Alves
2013-11-20 3:46 ` Joel Brobecker
2013-12-03 4:08 ` pushed: " Joel Brobecker
2013-11-19 15:05 ` [RFA GDB/MI] Help determine if GDB/MI command exists or not Pedro Alves
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