From: "Andrew Burgess" <aburgess@broadcom.com>
To: "Pedro Alves" <palves@redhat.com>
Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org, "Mark Kettenis" <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Print registers not saved in the frame as "<not saved>", instead of "<optimized out>".
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 16:35:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5228B2D8.7060604@broadcom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5228B15F.7060108@redhat.com>
On 05/09/2013 5:29 PM, Pedro Alves wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> Getting back to this, trying to make progress.
>
> On 08/19/2013 11:24 AM, Andrew Burgess wrote:
>> On 16/08/2013 7:41 PM, Pedro Alves wrote:
>>> On 08/12/2013 09:01 PM, Mark Kettenis wrote:
>>>>> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 14:55:04 +0100
>>>>> From: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 08/12/2013 02:31 PM, Andrew Burgess wrote:
>>>>>> On 06/08/2013 7:39 PM, Pedro Alves wrote:
>>>>>>> On 08/06/2013 04:41 PM, Mark Kettenis wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 14:49:03 +0100
>>>>>>>>> From: "Andrew Burgess" <aburgess@broadcom.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 3. My understanding was that values lost due to the ABI of a call site
>>>>>>>>> were recorded as optimized out. For evidence I would present
>>>>>>>>> dwarf2_frame_prev_register, and how DWARF2_FRAME_REG_UNDEFINED is handled.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For these reasons I believe my patch should still be considered, what do
>>>>>>>>> you think?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think that registers are either available or unavailble. A register
>>>>>>>> being unavailble implies that a variable that is supposed to live in
>>>>>>>> such a register may have been optimized out. Whether GDB's pseudo
>>>>>>>> variables that respresent registers are considered unavailable or
>>>>>>>> optimized out in that case is arguable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think improving consistency as in Andrew's patch is good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Given almost a week has passed with no further feedback I plan to
>>>>>> commit this patch tomorrow unless there's any further discussion to be had.
>>>>>
>>>>> TBC, note my opinion doesn't get to overrule Mark's. Consensus
>>>>> works much better, and Mark does have deep knowledge of all
>>>>> ABI/pseudo registers/etc. gdb things.
>>>>> That said, Mark, if you still disagree, please counter argue,
>>>>> otherwise, we'll just have to assume you do agree with the
>>>>> rationales and clarifications.
>>>>
>>>> Can't say I agree. It simply doesn't make sense for registers to be
>>>> "optimized out". I guess there are two reasons why GDB can't display
>>>> the contents of a register in a frame:
>>>>
>>>> 1. The register contents aren't made available by the debugging
>>>> interface, i.e. ptrace(2) or the remote stub doesn't tell us.
>>>>
>>>> 2. The register wasn't saved before calling another function.
>>>>
>>>> I guess after Andrew's chnages 1) would be shown as <unavailable> and
>>>> 2) would become <optimized out>. But in the latter case something
>>>> like <not saved> would make more sense.
>>>>
>>>> That said, Pedro, you're pretty much the expert for this area of GDB.
>>>> So If you think Andrew should go ahead with this, feel free to ignore
>>>> me.
>>>
>>> This is a tough call. I do agree that "optimized out" for registers
>>> is a bit confusing. However, we already do print "<optimized out>" in
>>> other places, such as when printing expressions, and consistency
>>> is good. If we did add a distinction, I agree with Andrew that it should
>>> be done in a more systematic way. However, I'm not really sure we need
>>> much machinery. Wouldn't something like:
>>>
>>> void
>>> val_print_optimized_out (const struct value *val, struct ui_file *stream)
>>> {
>>> if (value_lval_const (val) == lval_register)
>>> fprintf_filtered (stream, _("<not saved>"));
>>> else
>>> fprintf_filtered (stream, _("<optimized out>"));
>>> }
>>>
>>> work? What could be the register value cases that would print
>>> "not saved" that we'd still want to print "optimized out" ?
>>
>> The only case I can immediately think of where this would cause a
>> problem would be for computed locations, (lval_computed). The easy
>> answer would be (in that case) the blame the compiler - why say the
>> location is in a register if that register is volatile - but sadly I see
>> this way too often.
>
> Hmm, OK, but then lval_computed values with that change won't
> ever show "<not saved>", due to the lval_register check. IOW,
> we'd have to do something else in addition to lval_computed values
> to make them print something other than the current <optimized out>.
>
> However, I've come to think there's a really simple rule to
> follow here -- We should only ever print <not saved> for values
> that represent machine/pseudo registers. IOW, $pc, $rax, etc.
> If the debug info happens to describe a variable as being located
> in some optimized out register, we should still print
> <optimized out>. The previous version of the patch failed that:
>
> (gdb) PASS: gdb.dwarf2/dw2-op-out-param.exp: continue to breakpoint: Stop in breakpt for test int_param_single_reg_loc
> bt
> #0 0x000000000040058f in breakpt ()
> -#1 0x00000000004005a2 in int_param_single_reg_loc (operand0=<optimized out>, operand1=0xdeadbe00deadbe01, operand2=<optimized out>)
> +#1 0x00000000004005a2 in int_param_single_reg_loc (operand0=<not saved>, operand1=0xdeadbe00deadbe01, operand2=<not saved>)
> #2 0x0000000000400577 in main ()
>
> It didn't really make a lot of sense. This new version doesn't have
> that change anymore.
>
> That simple rule suggests that whatever the internal representation,
> we should be easily able to have a single central point where to tag
> such values. In fact, I think that already exists in value_of_register.
>
>> However, exchanging what I see as the current larger inconsistency, for
>> this much smaller one seems like a good deal to me, especially if it
>> gets this patch unblocked...
>
> Alright, what do you (all) think of of this (supposedly finished) patch
> on top of yours (Andrew's) then?
Looks good to me. Thanks for this.
Andrew
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-09-05 16:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-06 13:09 [PATCH] Consistent display " Andrew Burgess
2013-08-06 13:18 ` Mark Kettenis
2013-08-06 13:49 ` Andrew Burgess
2013-08-06 15:41 ` Mark Kettenis
2013-08-06 16:02 ` Andrew Burgess
2013-08-06 18:39 ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-12 13:32 ` Andrew Burgess
2013-08-12 13:55 ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-12 14:01 ` Andrew Burgess
2013-08-12 20:01 ` Mark Kettenis
2013-08-13 8:27 ` Andrew Burgess
2013-08-16 18:41 ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-16 20:28 ` Pedro Alves
2013-08-19 10:25 ` Andrew Burgess
2013-09-05 16:29 ` [PATCH] Print registers not saved in the frame as "<not saved>", instead of "<optimized out>". (was: Re: [PATCH] Consistent display of "<optimized out>") Pedro Alves
2013-09-05 16:35 ` Andrew Burgess [this message]
2013-09-16 19:05 ` [PATCH] Print registers not saved in the frame as "<not saved>", instead of "<optimized out>" Pedro Alves
2013-09-18 14:04 ` Andrew Burgess
2013-09-18 15:54 ` [PATCH+DOC] " Pedro Alves
2013-09-18 16:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-18 17:35 ` Pedro Alves
2013-09-18 19:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-18 20:47 ` Mark Kettenis
2013-09-19 7:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-19 16:58 ` Pedro Alves
2013-09-19 19:15 ` [PATCH] Always print call-clobbered registers in outer frames. (was: Re: [PATCH+DOC] Print registers not saved in the frame as "<not saved>", instead of "<optimized out>".) Pedro Alves
2013-09-19 19:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-09-19 23:13 ` Doug Evans
2013-09-19 23:22 ` Doug Evans
2013-09-20 11:04 ` [PATCH] Always print call-clobbered registers in outer frames Andrew Burgess
2013-09-24 12:07 ` Pedro Alves
2013-09-24 12:56 ` Andrew Burgess
2013-09-24 13:43 ` Pedro Alves
2013-09-24 15:18 ` Andrew Burgess
2013-09-24 19:36 ` Pedro Alves
2013-09-24 23:22 ` Andrew Burgess
2013-10-02 16:05 ` Pedro Alves
2013-10-02 19:07 ` Doug Evans
2013-09-20 12:28 ` [PATCH] Always print call-clobbered registers in outer frames. (was: Re: [PATCH+DOC] Print registers not saved in the frame as "<not saved>", instead of "<optimized out>".) Mark Kettenis
2013-09-24 12:06 ` [PATCH] Always print call-clobbered registers in outer frames Pedro Alves
2013-10-02 16:17 ` [PATCH+DOC] Print registers not saved in the frame as "<not saved>", instead of "<optimized out>" Pedro Alves
2013-09-18 16:30 ` Andreas Schwab
2013-09-18 17:36 ` Pedro Alves
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