From: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
To: Philippe Waroquiers <philippe.waroquiers@skynet.be>
Cc: Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com>,
Joel Brobecker <brobecker@adacore.com>,
gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [patch] [i386] Put hlt at the ON_STACK breakpoint [Re: GDB 7.4.91 available for testing]
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:48:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <50113C8D.6090302@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1343247870.2240.29.camel@soleil>
On 07/25/2012 09:24 PM, Philippe Waroquiers wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 15:58 +0100, Pedro Alves wrote:
>> On 07/23/2012 09:36 PM, Philippe Waroquiers wrote:
>>
>>>> So the GDB patch is no longer needed when you have fixed valgrind to put 0xcc
>>>> during Z0? Why valgrind cannot write 0xcc into stack memory when it already
>>>> has to write there to create the stack frame / parameters passed by stack?
>>> Effectively, I have a patch which fixes the problem.
>>> But the patch is a kludge which heuristically guesses that GDB is
>>> pushing an infcall.
>>
>> Why do you have to guess that, rather than just detecting a breakpoint is
>> being set on a stack (or non text) address? If something sets a breakpoint
>> in a data address, it is basically telling valgrind "this is actually code".
>
> This is explained by the way Valgrind gdbsrv (must) implement
> breakpoints.
> (this is a little bit tricky, as it is linked to Valgrind internals).
>
> Valgrind translates guest code instructions in small blocks.
> As part of the translation, if there is a breakpoint at addr XXXX
> then the translation of address XXXX will start with a call to a
> helper function which reports to GDB that a breakpoint has been
> encountered. This function then reads/executes protocol packets till a
> continue packet is received.
> The translated block is then continued <<< This is the critical info !!!
>
> There is no way to re-translate the block currently being executed :
> Valgrind has no way to "drop" the translated block it is currently
> executing.
So if you interrupt valgrind, and then set a breakpoint at or near the
address currently being executed, that breakpoint will be ignored? I'm guessing
there's some mechanism to re-translate and hook a new block to handle that case.
> So, a breakpoint cannot be translated using a 0xCC because when GDB
> tells to continue after the breakpoint, there is no way to retranslate
> the original instructions (without the 0xCC) as long as the block
> is being executed.
Which would sound like a similar issue. Is this a current limitation,
or something that Will Never Work?
> So, for normal breakpoints, Valgrind gdbsrv cannot insert 0xCC, as this
> would just not work.
>
> "Normal" breakpoints on the stack (trampoline code or whatever) or
> JITted code or ... must be handled the same way: V gdbsrv cannot
> touch the code to handle breakpoints.
>
> The only special case in which Valgrind gdbsrv can insert a 0xCC is
> when it is sure that this code will *not* be executed.
> This is the case for the 0xcc for the push_dummy_code.
> This code will not be executed because GDB will change the pc register.
"this code" is a bit ambiguous in this sentence. You mean, the code that
was there if we didn't put a 0xcc in place, I presume.
> When the continue packet is received, the execution of the block is
> then not continued, instead the continue will cause a jump to the
> "original pc" (the one before the infcall).
>
> So, if it is easy to change GDB to insert 0xcc (for x86 and amd84)
> and the equivalent breakpoint instr for mips32, then that avoids
> the kludgy patch in Valgrind, which is for sure fragile.
It adds a kludgy patch in GDB, for what sounds like a current Valgrind
limitation, so I'd like to explore all possibilities.
Why doesn't Valgrind trigger a translation of blocks with breakpoints
as soon as a Z0 is inserted? That way, when the forced infcall returns,
it'd find a translated breakpoint already, even without a 0xcc inserted,
instead of valgrind finding that the block hadn't been translated yet,
and ending up translating a random, possibly invalid instruction.
--
Pedro Alves
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2012-07-23 7:22 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-07-23 16:00 ` Joel Brobecker
2012-07-23 16:36 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-07-23 20:07 ` Philippe Waroquiers
2012-07-23 20:16 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-07-23 20:37 ` Philippe Waroquiers
2012-07-25 14:49 ` Joel Brobecker
2012-07-25 20:04 ` Philippe Waroquiers
2012-07-25 20:11 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-07-25 20:39 ` Philippe Waroquiers
2012-07-25 14:59 ` Pedro Alves
2012-07-25 20:24 ` Philippe Waroquiers
2012-07-25 21:27 ` Joel Brobecker
2012-07-25 21:46 ` Philippe Waroquiers
2012-07-25 22:39 ` Joel Brobecker
2012-07-26 21:24 ` [patchv2] Write bpt at the ON_STACK bpt address Jan Kratochvil
2012-07-26 21:50 ` Philippe Waroquiers
2012-07-27 18:47 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-07-28 7:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-28 7:42 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-07-31 7:37 ` [commit+7.5] " Jan Kratochvil
2012-08-01 9:08 ` [commit#2+7.5] testsuite: valgrind-infcall.exp UNSUPPORTED update [Re: [commit+7.5] [patchv2] Write bpt at the ON_STACK bpt address] Jan Kratochvil
2012-08-02 22:49 ` [commit+7.5] [patchv2] Write bpt at the ON_STACK bpt address Edjunior Barbosa Machado
2012-08-02 23:09 ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2012-08-03 0:15 ` Edjunior Barbosa Machado
2012-08-03 11:23 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-08-03 12:09 ` Edjunior Barbosa Machado
2012-08-03 1:00 ` Pedro Alves
2012-08-03 1:48 ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2012-08-03 2:30 ` Edjunior Barbosa Machado
2012-08-03 21:45 ` Philippe Waroquiers
2012-08-03 14:23 ` Tom Tromey
2012-08-03 14:31 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-08-03 15:02 ` Edjunior Barbosa Machado
2012-08-03 15:08 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-08-03 16:43 ` Edjunior Barbosa Machado
2012-08-03 16:46 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-08-03 18:00 ` Edjunior Barbosa Machado
2012-08-03 20:23 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-08-03 21:46 ` Edjunior Barbosa Machado
2012-08-06 18:40 ` Tom Tromey
2012-07-31 7:40 ` [commit] valgrind-db-attach.exp: Do not run in remote mode [Re: [patchv2] Write bpt at the ON_STACK bpt address] Jan Kratochvil
2012-07-26 23:14 ` [patchv2] Write bpt at the ON_STACK bpt address Maciej W. Rozycki
2012-07-27 16:02 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-07-28 0:10 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2012-07-28 6:06 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-07-30 18:09 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2012-07-26 23:15 ` Philippe Waroquiers
2012-07-27 16:03 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-07-27 15:21 ` Pedro Alves
2012-07-26 21:56 ` [patch] [i386] Put hlt at the ON_STACK breakpoint [Re: GDB 7.4.91 available for testing] Philippe Waroquiers
2012-07-26 22:41 ` Philippe Waroquiers
2012-07-26 5:13 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-07-26 12:48 ` Pedro Alves [this message]
2012-07-26 22:21 ` Philippe Waroquiers
2012-07-27 14:59 ` Pedro Alves
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