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From: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
To: Philippe Waroquiers <philippe.waroquiers@skynet.be>
Cc: Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com>,
	       Joel Brobecker <brobecker@adacore.com>,
	gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [patch] [i386] Put hlt at the ON_STACK breakpoint  [Re: GDB 7.4.91 available for testing]
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:48:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50113C8D.6090302@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1343247870.2240.29.camel@soleil>

On 07/25/2012 09:24 PM, Philippe Waroquiers wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 15:58 +0100, Pedro Alves wrote:
>> On 07/23/2012 09:36 PM, Philippe Waroquiers wrote:
>>
>>>> So the GDB patch is no longer needed when you have fixed valgrind to put 0xcc
>>>> during Z0? Why valgrind cannot write 0xcc into stack memory when it already
>>>> has to write there to create the stack frame / parameters passed by stack?
>>> Effectively, I have a patch which fixes the problem.
>>> But the patch is a kludge which heuristically guesses that GDB is
>>> pushing an infcall.
>>
>> Why do you have to guess that, rather than just detecting a breakpoint is
>> being set on a stack (or non text) address?  If something sets a breakpoint
>> in a data address, it is basically telling valgrind "this is actually code".
> 
> This is explained by the way Valgrind gdbsrv (must) implement
> breakpoints.
> (this is a little bit tricky, as it is linked to Valgrind internals).
> 
> Valgrind translates guest code instructions in small blocks.
> As part of the translation, if there is a breakpoint at addr XXXX
> then the translation of address XXXX will start with a call to a
> helper function which reports to GDB that a breakpoint has been
> encountered. This function then reads/executes protocol packets till a
> continue packet is received.
> The translated block is then continued <<< This is the critical info !!!
> 
> There is no way to re-translate the block currently being executed :
> Valgrind has no way to "drop" the translated block it is currently
> executing.

So if you interrupt valgrind, and then set a breakpoint at or near the
address currently being executed, that breakpoint will be ignored?  I'm guessing
there's some mechanism to re-translate and hook a new block to handle that case.

> So, a breakpoint cannot be translated using a 0xCC because when GDB
> tells to continue after the breakpoint, there is no way to retranslate
> the original instructions (without the 0xCC) as long as the block
> is being executed.

Which would sound like a similar issue.  Is this a current limitation,
or something that Will Never Work?

> So, for normal breakpoints, Valgrind gdbsrv cannot insert 0xCC, as this
> would just not work.
> 
> "Normal" breakpoints on the stack (trampoline code or whatever) or
> JITted code or ... must be handled the same way: V gdbsrv cannot
> touch the code to handle breakpoints.
> 
> The only special case in which Valgrind gdbsrv can insert a 0xCC is
> when it is sure that this code will *not* be executed.
> This is the case for the 0xcc for the push_dummy_code.
> This code will not be executed because GDB will change the pc register.

"this code" is a bit ambiguous in this sentence.  You mean, the code that
was there if we didn't put a 0xcc in place, I presume.

> When the continue packet is received, the execution of the block is
> then not continued, instead the continue will cause a jump to the
> "original pc" (the one before the infcall).
>
> So, if it is easy to change GDB to insert 0xcc (for x86 and amd84)
> and the equivalent breakpoint instr for mips32, then that avoids
> the kludgy patch in Valgrind, which is for sure fragile.

It adds a kludgy patch in GDB, for what sounds like a current Valgrind
limitation, so I'd like to explore all possibilities.

Why doesn't Valgrind trigger a translation of blocks with breakpoints
as soon as a Z0 is inserted?  That way, when the forced infcall returns,
it'd find a translated breakpoint already, even without a 0xcc inserted,
instead of valgrind finding that the block hadn't been translated yet,
and ending up translating a random, possibly invalid instruction.

-- 
Pedro Alves


  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-07-26 12:48 UTC|newest]

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2012-07-23  7:22           ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-07-23 16:00             ` Joel Brobecker
2012-07-23 16:36               ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-07-23 20:07                 ` Philippe Waroquiers
2012-07-23 20:16                   ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-07-23 20:37                     ` Philippe Waroquiers
2012-07-25 14:49                       ` Joel Brobecker
2012-07-25 20:04                         ` Philippe Waroquiers
2012-07-25 20:11                           ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-07-25 20:39                             ` Philippe Waroquiers
2012-07-25 14:59                       ` Pedro Alves
2012-07-25 20:24                         ` Philippe Waroquiers
2012-07-25 21:27                           ` Joel Brobecker
2012-07-25 21:46                             ` Philippe Waroquiers
2012-07-25 22:39                               ` Joel Brobecker
2012-07-26 21:24                                 ` [patchv2] Write bpt at the ON_STACK bpt address Jan Kratochvil
2012-07-26 21:50                                   ` Philippe Waroquiers
2012-07-27 18:47                                     ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-07-28  7:28                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-28  7:42                                         ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-07-31  7:37                                       ` [commit+7.5] " Jan Kratochvil
2012-08-01  9:08                                         ` [commit#2+7.5] testsuite: valgrind-infcall.exp UNSUPPORTED update [Re: [commit+7.5] [patchv2] Write bpt at the ON_STACK bpt address] Jan Kratochvil
2012-08-02 22:49                                         ` [commit+7.5] [patchv2] Write bpt at the ON_STACK bpt address Edjunior Barbosa Machado
2012-08-02 23:09                                           ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2012-08-03  0:15                                             ` Edjunior Barbosa Machado
2012-08-03 11:23                                               ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-08-03 12:09                                                 ` Edjunior Barbosa Machado
2012-08-03  1:00                                             ` Pedro Alves
2012-08-03  1:48                                               ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2012-08-03  2:30                                                 ` Edjunior Barbosa Machado
2012-08-03 21:45                                                   ` Philippe Waroquiers
2012-08-03 14:23                                               ` Tom Tromey
2012-08-03 14:31                                                 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-08-03 15:02                                                   ` Edjunior Barbosa Machado
2012-08-03 15:08                                                     ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-08-03 16:43                                                       ` Edjunior Barbosa Machado
2012-08-03 16:46                                                         ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-08-03 18:00                                                           ` Edjunior Barbosa Machado
2012-08-03 20:23                                           ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-08-03 21:46                                             ` Edjunior Barbosa Machado
2012-08-06 18:40                                               ` Tom Tromey
2012-07-31  7:40                                       ` [commit] valgrind-db-attach.exp: Do not run in remote mode [Re: [patchv2] Write bpt at the ON_STACK bpt address] Jan Kratochvil
2012-07-26 23:14                                   ` [patchv2] Write bpt at the ON_STACK bpt address Maciej W. Rozycki
2012-07-27 16:02                                     ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-07-28  0:10                                       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2012-07-28  6:06                                         ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-07-30 18:09                                           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2012-07-26 23:15                                   ` Philippe Waroquiers
2012-07-27 16:03                                     ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-07-27 15:21                                   ` Pedro Alves
2012-07-26 21:56                                 ` [patch] [i386] Put hlt at the ON_STACK breakpoint [Re: GDB 7.4.91 available for testing] Philippe Waroquiers
2012-07-26 22:41                                   ` Philippe Waroquiers
2012-07-26  5:13                               ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-07-26 12:48                           ` Pedro Alves [this message]
2012-07-26 22:21                             ` Philippe Waroquiers
2012-07-27 14:59                               ` Pedro Alves

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