From: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
To: Yao Qi <yao@codesourcery.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/9] agent doc
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:41:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F454F22.3000007@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F4444C0.3050402@codesourcery.com>
On 02/22/2012 01:28 AM, Yao Qi wrote:
> On 02/22/2012 01:26 AM, Pedro Alves wrote:
>> > From agentexpr.texi:
>> >
>> > When GDB is debugging a remote target, the GDB @dfn{agent} code running
>> > on the target computes the values of the expressions itself. To avoid
>> > having a full symbolic expression evaluator on the agent, GDB translates
>> > expressions in the source language into a simpler bytecode language, and
>> > then sends the bytecode to the agent; the agent then executes the
>> > bytecode, and records the values for GDB to retrieve later.
>> > (...) The interpreter is
>> > small, and strict limits on the memory and time required to evaluate an
>> > expression are easy to determine, making it suitable for use by the
>> > debugging agent in real-time applications.
>> >
>> > So nothing mentioned here about in-process or not. This applies all the
>> > same to the agent expression mechinary in GDBserver (tracepoints, etc.).
>> > That's an agent as well. "agent" is a very loose term for roughly something
>> > that runs on the remote target on GDB's behalf. Can we just drop that
>> > explanation? If we name things clearly then that's unnecessary.
>> >
> I am inclined to leave this explanation there, as it is still useful to
> generic term "agent".
Hmm, it still seems incorrect in the exact same way.
> -When GDB is debugging a remote target, the GDB @dfn{agent} code running
> +Although called @dfn{agent expression}, because they originally
> +referred to the in-process agent (@pxref{In-Process Agent}), these
Still false. Looks unchanged compared to the previous version?
> +When @value{GDBN} is debugging, the @value{GDBN} agent code running
> on the target computes the values of the expressions itself. To avoid
> -having a full symbolic expression evaluator on the agent, GDB translates
> -expressions in the source language into a simpler bytecode language, and
> -then sends the bytecode to the agent; the agent then executes the
> -bytecode, and records the values for GDB to retrieve later.
> +having a full symbolic expression evaluator on the agent or remote stub,
This is still confused on agent vs in-process agent. The remote stub is
an agent as well; it does things for gdb (e.g., GDBserver supports tracepoints).
Note the several references to "agent" on this whole paragraph. I suggest
really just leave this paragraph as it was.
> +@value{GDBN} translates expressions in the source language into a simpler
> +bytecode language, and then sends the bytecode to the agent; the agent
> +then executes the bytecode, and records the values for @value{GDBN} to
> +retrieve later.
We lost the intro about tracepoints, so this mention of recording values
for gdb to retrieve later is now awkward.
--
Pedro Alves
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-02-22 20:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-02-17 2:56 [patch v2] GDB/GDBserver talks with agents Yao Qi
2012-02-17 2:56 ` [PATCH 3/9] command set agent on and off Yao Qi
2012-02-23 21:51 ` Pedro Alves
2012-02-24 13:13 ` Yao Qi
2012-02-24 14:15 ` Pedro Alves
2012-02-17 2:56 ` [PATCH 1/9] move agent related code from gdbserver to common/agent.c Yao Qi
2012-02-17 9:55 ` Mark Kettenis
2012-02-23 21:05 ` Pedro Alves
2012-02-23 21:17 ` Pedro Alves
2012-02-24 7:57 ` Yao Qi
2012-02-24 13:40 ` Yao Qi
2012-02-17 2:57 ` [PATCH 2/9] add target_ops fields use_agent and can_use_agent Yao Qi
2012-02-17 11:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-23 21:21 ` Pedro Alves
2012-02-24 13:01 ` Yao Qi
2012-02-24 13:05 ` Pedro Alves
2012-02-17 2:57 ` [PATCH 5/9] agent capability Yao Qi
2012-02-17 2:57 ` [PATCH 4/9] agent doc Yao Qi
2012-02-17 11:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-17 13:34 ` Yao Qi
2012-02-17 16:10 ` Pedro Alves
2012-02-18 17:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-20 3:56 ` Yao Qi
2012-02-20 6:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-21 18:18 ` Pedro Alves
2012-02-22 1:56 ` Yao Qi
2012-02-22 20:41 ` Pedro Alves [this message]
2012-02-22 23:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-27 13:23 ` Yao Qi
2012-02-17 2:57 ` [PATCH 7/9] move in_process_agent_loaded to agent_loaded_p Yao Qi
2012-02-23 22:11 ` Pedro Alves
2012-02-23 22:27 ` Pedro Alves
2012-02-17 2:57 ` [PATCH 8/9] impl of use_agent and can_use_agent in linux-nat Yao Qi
2012-02-23 22:15 ` Pedro Alves
2012-02-24 8:34 ` Yao Qi
2012-02-24 10:47 ` Pedro Alves
2012-02-24 13:31 ` Yao Qi
2012-02-24 14:10 ` Pedro Alves
2012-02-24 14:34 ` Yao Qi
2012-02-17 2:57 ` [PATCH 6/9] agent capability of static tracepoint Yao Qi
2012-02-23 22:06 ` Pedro Alves
2012-02-24 13:19 ` Yao Qi
2012-02-24 14:25 ` Pedro Alves
2012-02-17 3:02 ` [PATCH 9/9] info static tracepoint in linux-nat Yao Qi
2012-02-24 13:37 ` Yao Qi
2012-02-17 4:02 ` [patch v2] GDB/GDBserver talks with agents Yao Qi
2012-02-17 12:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-02-27 9:43 ` Yao Qi
2012-02-27 18:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
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