From: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@false.org>
To: Pedro Alves <pedro@codesourcery.com>
Cc: Paul Pluzhnikov <ppluzhnikov@google.com>,
gdb-patches@sourceware.org, Ulrich Weigand <uweigand@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: RFC: Longjmp vs LD_POINTER_GUARD revisited
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:50:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091116174851.GA22887@caradoc.them.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200911161453.50890.pedro@codesourcery.com>
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 02:53:50PM +0000, Pedro Alves wrote:
> On Monday 16 November 2009 14:36:13, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 03:05:33PM -0800, Paul Pluzhnikov wrote:
> > > Still it's trivial to discover the canary without disassembling
> > > anything (disassembling requires symbols, which may be stripped):
> > > there are only 3 different algorithms I've seen (no canary, XOR,
> > > XOR+shift-by-9). Hmm, looks like x86_64 has XOR+shift-by-17 now, but
> > > ia64, SPARC and PPC all have just "plain XOR".
> >
> > I don't know about "trivial" - could you explain how you would do this
> > without disassembling? I think that at the least we'd have to call
> > setjmp in the inferior, which has risks with signals / multiple
> > threads / etc. I don't think we call functions in the inferior for
> > discovery otherwise.
>
> I've had this patch below laying here for ages, that does
> what Paul is suggesting, while trying to avoid infcalls.
> It's quite ugly... I've been meaning to post this for ages,
> but I'm a bit embarrassed by the hack :-) It doesn't work in
> every possible case.
So rather than disassembling setjmp to see what it is, you try various
algorithms and then scan backwards looking for a call to setjmp. If
you find one, you've succeeded. Sounds like it will work in an
acceptable set of cases.
> There are two issues that made me try this route:
>
> - single-stepping all the way through longjmp turned out
> to be slow. Did you not perceive that too? Maybe we
> could limit the amount of single-stepping by not placing
> the longjmp breakpoint at 'longjmp', but at one of its callees
> that's closer to the real long jump.
I've only been testing on x86_64-linux native so far, where the speed
is not as measurable. It didn't seem to be too many instructions.
> - I've tried a similar hack as yours and found that I had
> to add several more "functions still within longjmp" special
> cases. I had tried it on netbsd and Windows too. NetBSD
> was also bad at needing special casing. I'll post the relevant
> bits of the patch in a bit, when I find it :-)
I don't quite follow your patch... I'd have to sit down and stare at
it for a while.
So we have three strategies:
* Step. Various hacks, reconcile your patch and mine (probably mostly
by taking yours), test on a lot of platforms.
* Infcall setjmp to examine its behavior. Risky in that infcalls are
always risky. I feel like I don't have good insight into all the ways
this could go wrong.
* Try multiple algorithms in the target on platforms with jmp_buf
encryption.
You've explored these more than I have. Which one do you like best?
If it's the last one, then I should pick up your attached patch... I
don't think it's too awful. The only thing I don't care for is
the target method for the thread area. I'd rather make the value
available through the regcache. IIRC we were going to call this
%fs_base at some point.
--
Daniel Jacobowitz
CodeSourcery
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-16 17:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-15 17:35 Daniel Jacobowitz
2009-11-15 18:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-15 18:30 ` Paul Pluzhnikov
2009-11-15 22:36 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2009-11-15 23:06 ` Paul Pluzhnikov
2009-11-16 14:37 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2009-11-16 14:55 ` Pedro Alves
2009-11-16 14:56 ` Pedro Alves
2009-11-16 15:05 ` Pedro Alves
2009-11-16 17:50 ` Daniel Jacobowitz [this message]
2009-11-15 18:39 ` Joseph S. Myers
2009-11-15 21:52 ` Mark Kettenis
2009-11-15 22:37 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2009-11-16 15:15 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-11-16 15:40 ` Paul Pluzhnikov
2009-11-16 15:43 ` Paul Pluzhnikov
2009-11-16 16:19 ` Mark Kettenis
2009-11-16 15:59 ` Mark Kettenis
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