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From: Pedro Alves <pedro@codesourcery.com>
To: gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Cc: "Ulrich Weigand" <uweigand@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [0/2] Inspect extra signal information
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:23:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200902031823.06618.pedro@codesourcery.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200902031642.n13GgL35026175@d12av02.megacenter.de.ibm.com>

On Tuesday 03 February 2009 16:42:21, Ulrich Weigand wrote:
> Pedro Alves wrote:

> > But, I thought I had, but I clearly didn't test before:
> > 
> >  - 64-bit gdb x 32-bit inferior, 64-bit kernel
> > 
> >    siginfo comes out with the 64-bit layout.
> >                               ^^^^^^
> 
> Huh.  With bi-arch setups, I understand everything is currently
> supposed to be set up so that debugging a 32-bit program
> with a 64-bit GDB looks just the same as debugging it
> with a 32-bit GDB.
> 
> The above would break that assumption: you see different
> types of siginfo depending on your host GDB.  I'm not sure
> if that is really what we want ...

Right, I'm not sure either.

> On the other hand, it's going to be difficult to avoid.  One
> way would be for the Linux native target to always return
> the 32-bit layout when debugging a 32-bit inferior; if necessary
> it would have to convert the data in-place before returning it
> (similar to how the native target today converts register contents
> to 32 bit even though the ptrace interface returns 64 bit values).

I guess I should try this.

> > I was looking at target_gdbarch, and it doesn't seem to fit the
> > bill either.  E.g., a biarch ppc64 gdbserver returns a 32-bit
> > target_arch if the inferior is 32-bit.
> 
> That's actually an interesting question.  The idea behind
> "target_gdbarch" is "the architecture implemented by the
> target debugger interface".  In a bi-arch setup, the target
> today emulates a 32-bit target interface when debugging a 32-bit
> inferior, even when GDB itself is 64-bit.  This is done by 
> explicit conversion in the native target (see above).

The only weird case I can think of, if when you have an
inferior that can do mode switching, and the siginfo_t type
is different in different modes.  In this case, there'd better
be a single siginfo_t layout for all modes, otherwise you get
funny cases.  Say, a signal handler installed in code that runs
mode x-bit, but the signal was raised while running code
in mode y-bit.  Without kernel help, GDB can't know the correct
layout of the siginfo_t object the inferior will see in the
signal handler.

I don't think we can see that happen on linux, though, so on
the fly conversion out of ptrace sounds like a good option.

Let's see if it doesn't come out looking too ugly.  If I make
use of struct type/struct value if may not be bad, but, gdbserver
can't use those...

> Before real multi-architecture support, there really was to
> other way to do it.  However, once we get to full multi-arch,
> it might in fact be a more natural fit to model the bi-arch
> setup by having "target_gdbarch" indicate the actual bitness
> of the ptrace interface (i.e. 64-bit), while still setting
> the per-frame architecture of all frames to the appropriate
> 32-bit architecture ...  This might allow us to get rid of
> some of the bi-arch special hacks in native target code.

That's actually what I initially thought target_gdbarch was
reporting.  Full multi-arch is something that is also interesting
for multi-process.  E.g, a bi-arch gdbserver, that supports
multi-process has issues, when trying to debug simultaneously
32-bit and 64-bit inferiors.  In this case, we have one
target interface active (remote) and one target_gdbarch.  Since
the register layouts in the protocol aren't dynamic depending
on the inferior (after the first inferior), on the multi-process
branch, gdbserver only allows debugging multiple inferiors if
they're of the same arch.
current_gdbarch of course bites back in this scenario as well.

BTW, what is the status of your per-frame gdbarch patches
submitted a while ago?

-- 
Pedro Alves


      parent reply	other threads:[~2009-02-03 18:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-12 18:47 Pedro Alves
2009-01-12 18:49 ` Pedro Alves
2009-01-12 18:52   ` [1/2] " Pedro Alves
2009-01-12 19:40     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-02-02 16:51       ` Pedro Alves
2009-02-02 21:04         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-02-05  1:14           ` Pedro Alves
2009-02-05 20:30             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-02-06 23:31               ` Pedro Alves
2009-01-12 18:50 ` [2/2] " Pedro Alves
2009-01-12 19:39   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-13 12:32     ` Pedro Alves
2009-01-13 18:55       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-13 19:08         ` Pedro Alves
2009-01-13 19:15           ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-02-06 23:35         ` Pedro Alves
2009-02-09  6:23           ` Paul Pluzhnikov
2009-02-09 22:17             ` Pedro Alves
2009-04-06 19:00               ` Paul Pluzhnikov
2009-04-06 19:18                 ` relying on testsuite results Thiago Jung Bauermann
2009-04-06 19:33                   ` Paul Pluzhnikov
2009-04-06 19:57                     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2009-04-06 19:51                   ` Tom Tromey
2009-04-06 20:22                     ` Mark Kettenis
2009-04-07 14:57                 ` [2/2] Inspect extra signal information Pedro Alves
2009-01-12 23:27 ` [0/2] " Mark Kettenis
2009-01-13 11:05   ` Pedro Alves
2009-01-13 18:42     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-13 18:50       ` Pedro Alves
2009-01-13 19:19         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-13 19:37           ` Pedro Alves
2009-01-13 19:47             ` Pedro Alves
2009-02-02 14:40               ` Pedro Alves
2009-02-02 20:49                 ` Mark Kettenis
2009-02-03 15:02 ` Pedro Alves
2009-02-03 16:42   ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-02-03 18:06     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2009-02-03 18:24       ` Pedro Alves
2009-02-03 19:04         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2009-02-03 19:51           ` Pedro Alves
2009-02-03 23:18             ` Doug Evans
2009-02-03 23:50               ` Pedro Alves
2009-02-04  0:17                 ` Doug Evans
2009-02-04  0:24             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2009-02-04  0:49               ` Pedro Alves
2009-02-04 21:02                 ` [3/2] Inspect extra signal information, handle amd64 bi-arch gdb Pedro Alves
2009-02-04 21:17                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2009-02-06 23:37                     ` Pedro Alves
2009-02-07  2:28                       ` Paul Pluzhnikov
2009-02-07 14:56                         ` Pedro Alves
2009-02-07 16:14                           ` Paul Pluzhnikov
2009-02-04 22:07                   ` Doug Evans
2009-02-03 18:23     ` Pedro Alves [this message]

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