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From: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@mvista.com>
To: gdb-patches@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: unwind support for Linux 2.6 vsyscall DSO
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 04:07:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031007040754.GA32257@nevyn.them.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3F8238B0.50409@redhat.com>

On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 11:53:20PM -0400, Andrew Cagney wrote:
> >>> There should be an iterator over the entries in the /proc/pid/auxv
> >>> file with a callback that processes each entry. So that the iterator
> >>> could be used not just for finding the AT_SYSINFO_EHDR entry. 
> >
> >>
> >>Ok, an iterator interface is fine with me, just marginally less efficient
> >>than the searcher when only one tag is actually used (and more efficient 
> >>if
> >>many tags are used).  (I had not proposed any function that would be 
> >>useful
> >>solely for AT_SYSINFO_EHDR, though that was one of Jim's early
> >>suggestions.)  If others agree this is the right interface for a 
> >>target_ops
> >>addition, I will write that patch.
> >
> >
> >Actually, I think this is not as useful an interface as one that fetches
> >the whole block for you.  There is another use for this call besides the
> >Linux-specific AT_SYSINFO_EHDR check: gcore.  We want gcore to produce
> >NT_AUXV notes in core dumps so that those core dumps can be used to extract
> >whatever AT_* information we could extract from core dumps written by a 
> >kernel.
> >
> >This is easy to add either way, but is cleaner, simpler, and more efficient
> >if it just writes the whole block uninterpreted than if it dissects and
> >reassembles it.
> 
> For this to work, there will need to be mechanisms that:
> 
> - unpack an architecture's auxv
> - pack an architecture's auxv
> - transport the auxv from the target, to GDB.
> 
> The problem then is how to arrange these mechanisms so that they 
> integrate well enough to work both native and cross (i386 on amd64 is 
> considered a cross), be consistent with other gdb mechanisms and direction:
> 
> target vector xfers via an iterator:
> - the low native code would be using the unpack method
> - the PIE and VSYSCALL code would be very simple
> - the CORE file code would need the pack method
> - the low remote could on-demand read the data

I think a pack method is overengineered.  Unlike, for instance,
register files, we never need to pack an arbitrary auxv array.
We're always just copying one that we've been given, exactly as-is.
I just see call for transport and query.

> target vector xfers raw data:
> - the low native code would be simple
> - the PIE and VSYSCALL code would need to use the unpack method
> - the CORE file code would just write out the data
> - the low remote code would, either be locked into transfering raw 
> bytes, or be forced to use the pack method
> 
> Also, ...
> 
> In my way earlier post, I also suggested "remote I/O' - a generic 
> mechanism for accessing arbitrary target data.  Looking through the 
> target vectore I see there is already "to_query()".  The original intent 
> of to_query was to handle exactly this sort of problem - pushing data 
> anonymously through the target vector.   The auxv fetch, with a large 
> bit of a struggle, could even be implemented using to_query.

Hmm, yes.  The only problem that I see is the buffer-sizing one.  A
traditional problem in our interfaces, I think; the remote code avoids
the issue delicately.

> So?
> 
> I've strong reservations towards adding redundant functionality to the 
> target vector.  However, I also note that the existing to_query method 
> isn't sufficient.
> 
> So I can see either an iterator, or an update to to_query being added to 
> the target vector.  Given that the iterator is a given, that might be 
> the safest starting point - let the target maintainer go through and 
> clean up to_query.

While I won't argue about an iterator being useful, I think that the
target vector code would be clearer if we just had the raw buffer. 
Layer the iterator on top of it, instead of re-implementing the
iterator in every target.

-- 
Daniel Jacobowitz
MontaVista Software                         Debian GNU/Linux Developer


  reply	other threads:[~2003-10-07  4:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-03  8:27 Roland McGrath
2003-10-03 23:44 ` Jim Blandy
2003-10-04  0:10   ` Roland McGrath
2003-10-04  7:28     ` Jim Blandy
2003-10-04 20:27       ` Roland McGrath
2003-10-04 21:14         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-10-04 22:01           ` Roland McGrath
2003-10-04 23:28             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-10-06 17:14         ` Jim Blandy
2003-10-06 19:35       ` Elena Zannoni
2003-10-06 19:31 ` Elena Zannoni
2003-10-06 20:24   ` Roland McGrath
2003-10-06 21:48     ` Elena Zannoni
2003-10-06 23:59       ` Roland McGrath
2003-10-07  0:13         ` Roland McGrath
2003-10-07  2:30           ` Elena Zannoni
2003-10-07  2:40             ` Roland McGrath
2003-10-07  2:47               ` Roland McGrath
2003-10-07  3:53           ` Andrew Cagney
2003-10-07  4:07             ` Daniel Jacobowitz [this message]
2003-10-07  4:17               ` Andrew Cagney
2003-10-07  4:28             ` Roland McGrath
2003-10-08  0:02               ` Michael Snyder
2003-10-08  0:46                 ` Roland McGrath
2003-10-08 18:27                   ` Andrew Cagney
2003-10-08 21:00               ` Andrew Cagney
2003-10-08 21:47                 ` Roland McGrath
2003-10-08 23:25                   ` Elena Zannoni
2003-10-09  0:45                     ` Roland McGrath
2003-10-08 23:10                 ` Elena Zannoni
2003-10-09  0:50                   ` Roland McGrath
2003-10-08 23:53                 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-10-07  0:17         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-10-07 23:54         ` Michael Snyder
2003-10-08  0:07           ` Roland McGrath
2003-10-07  4:43     ` Jim Blandy
2003-10-07  4:45       ` Roland McGrath
2003-10-09 19:58         ` Kevin Buettner
2003-10-09 20:02           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-10-09 20:10             ` Jim Blandy
2003-10-09 22:20               ` Roland McGrath
2003-10-09 22:49                 ` Kevin Buettner
2003-10-10  0:12                   ` Michael Snyder
2003-10-11  1:44                   ` Roland McGrath
2003-10-09 23:04                 ` Kevin Buettner
2003-10-11  1:47                   ` Roland McGrath
2003-10-15  4:33                     ` Kevin Buettner
2003-10-09 20:21             ` Kevin Buettner
2003-10-09 20:23               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-10-09 20:46                 ` Kevin Buettner
2003-10-09 22:32                   ` Roland McGrath
2003-10-09 22:46                     ` Kevin Buettner
2003-10-11  1:40                       ` Roland McGrath
2003-10-09 22:07           ` Roland McGrath
2003-10-09 22:32             ` Kevin Buettner
2003-10-07  3:33 Roland McGrath

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