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From: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@mvista.com>
To: Andrew Cagney <ac131313@cygnus.com>
Cc: Michael Snyder <msnyder@cygnus.com>, gdb-patches@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFA] Don't use thread_db on corefiles
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 17:02:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011216200041.A935@nevyn.them.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3C1D123E.3000900@cygnus.com>

On Sun, Dec 16, 2001 at 04:29:34PM -0500, Andrew Cagney wrote:
> >Are we really comfortable with that?  This'll probably cause GDB to
> >misbehave in arbitrarily unpredictable ways in that circumstance.  And
> >we've no way to detect it that I can see.
> 
> 
> By misbehave I guess you mean exibit non-deterministic behavour.  Using 
> the current source base, either the GDB build is native and thread-db is 
> included (and full thread support in core files is available) XOR GDB is 
> a cross, thread-db is not included, and full thread support of core 
> files is not available.  I think this is pretty deterministic.

What do we really lose when you say "full thread support" is not
available?  For a thread == LWP model, everything except possibly
internal LWP numbering is there, as far as I can tell.  But that's
beside the point.

> As far as I know, these limitations are exactly the same as for GDB and 
> shared libraries.  It just so happens that, for shared libraries, things 
> are a little (lot) further down the road of getting the technical 
> problems fixed.

Not really the same.  Debugging shared libraries you need:
 - to describe the link map.  This is a fixed, generally unchanging,
and simple structure.
 - to provide the target libraries.

Debugging threads, you need a libthread_db which can run on the host
and describe the target.  The way linuxthreads_db is built it'll never
do that.  What worries me is that we have no way to find whether
/lib/libthread_db.so.1 is compatible with the threads in a core dump.

In any case, I'll try to bring it up for a normal native case later
tonight.

-- 
Daniel Jacobowitz                           Carnegie Mellon University
MontaVista Software                         Debian GNU/Linux Developer


  reply	other threads:[~2001-12-17  1:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-12-13  8:50 Daniel Jacobowitz
2001-12-13 10:57 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-12-13 11:37   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2001-12-16 17:58   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2001-12-16 21:32     ` Kevin Buettner
2001-12-17  8:34       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2001-12-13 12:26 ` Michael Snyder
2001-12-13 12:31   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2001-12-13 14:59     ` Michael Snyder
2001-12-13 15:04       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2001-12-13 15:08         ` Michael Snyder
2001-12-13 15:11           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2001-12-13 15:37             ` Andrew Cagney
2001-12-13 15:46               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2001-12-13 17:14                 ` Michael Snyder
2001-12-13 20:29                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2001-12-14 18:12                     ` Andrew Cagney
2001-12-14 18:25                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2001-12-13 15:47             ` Michael Snyder
2001-12-13 15:57               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2001-12-13 16:06                 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2001-12-13 17:31                   ` Michael Snyder
2001-12-13 20:23                     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2001-12-14 15:43                       ` Michael Snyder
2001-12-14 17:14                         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2001-12-17 11:40                           ` Michael Snyder
2001-12-17 11:51                             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2001-12-13 17:26                 ` Michael Snyder
2001-12-13 20:27                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2001-12-14 18:31                     ` Andrew Cagney
2001-12-14 18:36                       ` Andrew Cagney
2001-12-14 18:42                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2001-12-15  9:16                         ` Andrew Cagney
2001-12-16 12:26                           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2001-12-16 13:29                             ` Andrew Cagney
2001-12-16 17:02                               ` Daniel Jacobowitz [this message]
2002-01-03 17:11 ` Michael Snyder
2002-01-04 10:25   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-01-04 14:49     ` Michael Snyder
2002-01-04 17:28     ` Michael Snyder
2002-01-04 17:47       ` Daniel Jacobowitz

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