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From: Thobias Knudsen via lttng-dev <lttng-dev@lists.lttng.org>
To: Olivier Dion <odion@efficios.com>
Cc: lttng-dev@lists.lttng.org
Subject: Re: URCU feature request?
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2025 20:09:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKGpcipgGfFwastwUrFxeA=BXW5z_9+C2PGuDyR1pQF8rtQe-Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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> One thing you could do is to make something like an rcu_assign_data()
> that does the assignment and checks rcu_read_ongoing().  Alternatively,
> if you are willing to put infrequent random delays in rcu_read_unlock(),
> an address sanitizer might detect the resulting use-after-free.

Sorry for being late to answer :/
I have thought of that but it's so easy to just not use rcu_assign_data()
or a equivalent read function to check if the read is done within a read
section. Maybe it's the best possible option

Thanks
Thobias

tor. 4. sep. 2025 kl. 20:06 skrev Thobias Knudsen <thobknu@gmail.com>:

> > I am confuse about the overall discussion here.  Are we talking about
> > static checking of RCU pointers usage or runtime checking?
> >
> > Is is possible to see the implementation you made so I can understand
> > better?
>
> Sorry for being late to answer :/
> The library overrides a subset of urcu and lfht functions with macros and
> replaces them with other functions which checks in runtime if the functions
> are called in the correct order.
> here is the code: https://github.com/ThobiasKnudsen/urcu_lfht_safe
>
>
> ons. 3. sep. 2025 kl. 03:35 skrev Olivier Dion <odion@efficios.com>:
>
>> On Tue, 02 Sep 2025, Thobias Knudsen via lttng-dev <
>> lttng-dev@lists.lttng.org> wrote:
>> > Yes but all read/write operations doesn't have the syntax of a function
>> as
>> > you used in the example here i.e. use(...). When it is a function you
>> can
>> > easily just change the implementation to check if it is called inside a
>> > read section. Some reads and writes are usually done by this syntax (a
>> = b)
>> > and '=' cannot be overridden.
>> >
>> > BTW just saying that what we're talking about now is not the original
>> > topic, but if someone has an elegant solution to this that would be
>> > nice!
>>
>> I am confuse about the overall discussion here.  Are we talking about
>> static checking of RCU pointers usage or runtime checking?
>>
>> Is is possible to see the implementation you made so I can understand
>> better?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Olivier
>> --
>> Olivier Dion
>> EfficiOS Inc.
>> https://www.efficios.com
>>
>>

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-04 18:09 UTC|newest]

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2025-09-02 14:02   ` Thobias Knudsen via lttng-dev
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2025-09-02 14:17     ` Thobias Knudsen via lttng-dev
2025-09-02 14:24       ` Thobias Knudsen via lttng-dev
2025-09-02 20:33         ` Paul E. McKenney via lttng-dev
2025-09-02 21:06           ` Thobias Knudsen via lttng-dev
2025-09-02 21:33             ` Ondřej Surý via lttng-dev
2025-09-02 21:48               ` Thobias Knudsen via lttng-dev
2025-09-03  1:35                 ` Olivier Dion via lttng-dev
2025-09-04 18:06                   ` Thobias Knudsen via lttng-dev
2025-09-04 18:09                     ` Thobias Knudsen via lttng-dev [this message]
2025-09-05 18:04                     ` Olivier Dion via lttng-dev
2025-09-07 19:18                       ` Thobias Knudsen via lttng-dev
2025-09-08  0:10                         ` Olivier Dion via lttng-dev
2025-09-19 20:39                           ` Thobias Knudsen via lttng-dev
2025-09-19 20:42                             ` Thobias Knudsen via lttng-dev
2025-09-03  1:20             ` Paul E. McKenney via lttng-dev

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