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From: pwh@cecs.pdx.edu (Phil Howard)
Subject: [ltt-dev] [rp] [URCU RFC patch 3/3] call_rcu: remove delay for wakeup scheme
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 14:26:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTingL25X5P5KNW1KpM32ZdouqJbQvw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110606192107.GA25995@Krystal>

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Mathieu Desnoyers
<mathieu.desnoyers at efficios.com> wrote:
> * Mathieu Desnoyers (mathieu.desnoyers at efficios.com) wrote:
>> I notice that the "poll(NULL, 0, 10);" delay is executed both for the RT
>> and non-RT code. ?So given that my goal is to get the call_rcu thread to
>> GC memory as quickly as possible to diminish the overhead of cache
>> misses, I decided to try removing this delay for !RT: the call_rcu
>> thread then wakes up ASAP when the thread invoking call_rcu wakes it. My
>> updates jump to 76349/s (getting there!) ;).
>>
>> This improvement can be explained by a lower delay between call_rcu and
>> execution of its callback, which decrease the amount of cache used, and
>> therefore provides better cache locality.
>
> I just wonder if it's worth it: removing this delay from the !RT
> call_rcu thread can cause high-rate of synchronize_rcu() calls. So
> although there might be an advantage in terms of update rate, it will
> likely cause extra cache-line bounces between the call_rcu threads and
> the reader threads.
>
> test_urcu_rbtree 7 1 20 -g 1000000
>
> With the delay in the call_rcu thread:
> search: ?1842857 items/reader thread/s (7 reader threads)
> updates: ? 21066 items/s (1 update thread)
> ratio: 87 search/update
>
> Without the delay in the call_rcu thread:
> search: ?3064285 items/reader thread/s (7 reader threads)
> updates: ? 45096 items/s (1 update thread)
> ratio: 68 search/update
>
> So basically, adding the delay doubles the update performance, at the
> cost of being 33% slower for reads. My first thought is that if an
> application has very frequent updates, then maybe it wants to have fast
> updates because the update throughput is then important. If the
> application has infrequent updates, then the reads will be fast anyway,
> because rare call_rcu invocation will trigger less cache-line bounce
> between readers and writers. Any other thoughts on this trade-off and
> how to deal with it ?
>

Did I miss something here? It looks like you more than doubled the
update rate and almost doubled the lookup rate. The search/update
ration is less, but if both the raw rates improved so much, how is
this a bad thing?

-phil

> Thanks,
>
> Mathieu
>
>
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers at efficios.com>
>> ---
>> ?urcu-call-rcu-impl.h | ? ?3 ++-
>> ?1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>
>> Index: userspace-rcu/urcu-call-rcu-impl.h
>> ===================================================================
>> --- userspace-rcu.orig/urcu-call-rcu-impl.h
>> +++ userspace-rcu/urcu-call-rcu-impl.h
>> @@ -242,7 +242,8 @@ static void *call_rcu_thread(void *arg)
>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? else {
>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? if (&crdp->cbs.head == _CMM_LOAD_SHARED(crdp->cbs.tail))
>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? call_rcu_wait(crdp);
>> - ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? poll(NULL, 0, 10);
>> + ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? else
>> + ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? poll(NULL, 0, 10);
>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? }
>> ? ? ? }
>> ? ? ? call_rcu_lock(&crdp->mtx);
>>
>
> --
> Mathieu Desnoyers
> Operating System Efficiency R&D Consultant
> EfficiOS Inc.
> http://www.efficios.com
>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-06-06 21:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-06 17:45 [ltt-dev] [URCU RFC patch 0/3] call_rcu() performance improvements Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-06-06 17:45 ` [ltt-dev] [URCU RFC patch 1/3] call_rcu: use cpu affinity for per-cpu call_rcu threads Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-06-06 17:45   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-06-06 17:45   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-06-06 19:44   ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-06-06 20:47     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-06-06 21:05       ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-06-06 21:25         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-06-06 17:46 ` [ltt-dev] [URCU RFC patch 2/3] call_rcu: use futex for wakeup scheme Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-06-06 17:46   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-06-06 17:46   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-06-06 20:06   ` [ltt-dev] [rp] " Paul E. McKenney
2011-06-07  4:16     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-06-08  7:04   ` [ltt-dev] " Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-08 22:31     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]     ` <BLU0-SMTP38722641CF9CD185CCFFDC96620@phx.gbl>
2011-06-09  6:14       ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-06-06 17:46 ` [ltt-dev] [URCU RFC patch 3/3] call_rcu: remove delay " Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-06-06 17:46   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-06-06 17:46   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-06-06 19:21   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-06-06 19:41     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-06-06 21:29       ` [ltt-dev] [rp] " Phil Howard
2011-06-06 21:39         ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-06-06 22:41         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2011-06-06 21:26     ` Phil Howard [this message]
2011-06-06 22:29       ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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