Mirror of the lttng-dev mailing list
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: alexandre.montplaisir@polymtl.ca (Alexandre Montplaisir)
Subject: [ltt-dev] liburcu cache line size
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 16:36:30 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C6AF2CE.4040000@polymtl.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100817202717.GB22705@Krystal>

On 10-08-17 04:27 PM, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> * Alexandre Montplaisir (alexandre.montplaisir at polymtl.ca) wrote:
>    
>> On 10-08-17 03:54 PM, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>>      
>   [...]
>    
>>> Oh, and by the way, given that these are arrays made of one variable per
>>> cpu, the extra space allocated will not consume extra cache lines in any
>>> of the CPU. We're just wasting a bit a memory here, not adding to cache
>>> pressure.
>>>
>>> Mathieu
>>>        
>> Sorry to chime in, but wouldn't padding to 128 bytes on architectures
>> with 64-byte cache lines "waste" an extra line every time, thus
>> indirectly adding to cache pressure?
>>      
> A cache line is only used if the data located in that cache line is
> touched. If we only have padding in the second half of the 128 bytes,
> then the associated 64 bytes cache line is never fetched by the cpu.
>
> But reality can be a bit different when we speak of sequential accesses
> with prefetching. However, this apply well to randomly-accessed memory.
>
> Does that make sense ?
>
>    
Yes, thanks for the explanation!

I see now why we *clearly* don't want the align attribute to be smaller 
than the actual cache-line size.

Me and David's concerns were more about the other architectures (core2, 
atom, "generic", etc., which do seem to be more common than P4 & NUMA) 
where the lib is still defining 128-byte cache line sizes even though 
they use 64-byte ones. Would it be worth it to have a per-architecture 
definition?

Alexandre

> Thanks,
>
> Mathieu
>
>    
>> (relatively newbie here, please be gentle :) )
>>
>> Alexandre
>>      
>
>    




  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-17 20:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-17 18:30 David Goulet
2010-08-17 18:51 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-17 19:06   ` David Goulet
2010-08-17 19:45     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-17 19:54       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-17 20:04         ` Alexandre Montplaisir
2010-08-17 20:27           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-17 20:36             ` Alexandre Montplaisir [this message]
2010-08-17 20:53               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-17 19:58       ` David Goulet
2010-08-17 20:24         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-17 20:40           ` David Goulet
2010-08-17 20:51             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-17 20:53               ` David Goulet
2010-08-17 20:55                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=4C6AF2CE.4040000@polymtl.ca \
    --to=alexandre.montplaisir@polymtl.ca \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox