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* [lttng-dev] [PATCH lttng-tools] Fix: Some corrections to the lttng man page
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@ 2013-11-05 20:50 ` Jérémie Galarneau
  2013-11-05 21:34   ` Thibault, Daniel
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Jérémie Galarneau @ 2013-11-05 20:50 UTC (permalink / raw)


On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Thibault, Daniel <
Daniel.Thibault at drdc-rddc.gc.ca> wrote:

> -----Message d'origine-----
> Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 12:08:47 -0400
> From: J?r?mie Galarneau <jeremie.galarneau@efficios.com>
>
> > diff --git a/doc/man/lttng.1 b/doc/man/lttng.1
> > [...]
> > +All user-space applications instrumented with lttng-ust(3) will
> > automatically register to the session daemon. This feature gives you the
> > ability to list available traceable applications and tracepoints on a
> per user
> > basis. (See \fBlist\fP command).
>
>    Is this a statement of intent?  LTTng 2.3.0's list command identifies
> user-space events by trace provider name, event name, and process ID, but
> not by user ID (in fact it doesn't even yet filter the kernel events out
> when one asks for 'list -u session'; see bug #654).  And there is as yet no
> way to filter the 'lttng list' output by user ID (an optional argument for
> the -u option could do the trick).
>
>
I didn't change the meaning of the original sentence. It just means that
"lttng list" will output the events registered to the user's corresponding
session daemon. Perhaps you can suggest a better phrasing?

J?r?mie



>    Of course, listing available tracepoints is automatically per-user when
> using a local session daemon.  But if you're a member of the 'tracing'
> group, you'll deal exclusively with the root daemon and won't have that
> choice.
>
> Daniel U. Thibault
> Protection des syst?mes et contremesures (PSC) | Systems Protection &
> Countermeasures (SPC)
> Cyber s?curit? pour les missions essentielles (CME) | Mission Critical
> Cyber Security (MCCS)
> R & D pour la d?fense Canada - Valcartier (RDDC Valcartier) | Defence R&D
> Canada - Valcartier (DRDC Valcartier)
> 2459 route de la Bravoure
> Qu?bec QC  G3J 1X5
> CANADA
> Vox : (418) 844-4000 x4245
> Fax : (418) 844-4538
> NAC : 918V QSDJ <http://www.travelgis.com/map.asp?addr=918V%20QSDJ>
> Gouvernement du Canada | Government of Canada
> <http://www.valcartier.drdc-rddc.gc.ca/>
>



-- 
J?r?mie Galarneau
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com
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* [lttng-dev] [PATCH lttng-tools] Fix: Some corrections to the lttng man page
  2013-11-05 20:50 ` [lttng-dev] [PATCH lttng-tools] Fix: Some corrections to the lttng man page Jérémie Galarneau
@ 2013-11-05 21:34   ` Thibault, Daniel
  2013-11-06  1:25     ` Jérémie Galarneau
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Thibault, Daniel @ 2013-11-05 21:34 UTC (permalink / raw)


De : jeremie.galarneau at gmail.com
Envoy? : 5 novembre 2013 15:51

On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Thibault, Daniel <Daniel.Thibault at drdc-rddc.gc.ca<mailto:Daniel.Thibault at drdc-rddc.gc.ca>> wrote:
-----Message d'origine-----
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 12:08:47 -0400
From: J?r?mie Galarneau <jeremie.galarneau@efficios.com<mailto:jeremie.galarneau@efficios.com>>

> diff --git a/doc/man/lttng.1 b/doc/man/lttng.1
> [...]
> +All user-space applications instrumented with lttng-ust(3) will
> automatically register to the session daemon. This feature gives you the
> ability to list available traceable applications and tracepoints on a per user
> basis. (See \fBlist\fP command).
   Is this a statement of intent?  LTTng 2.3.0's list command identifies user-space events by trace provider name, event name, and process ID, but not by user ID (in fact it doesn't even yet filter the kernel events out when one asks for 'list -u session'; see bug #654).  And there is as yet no way to filter the 'lttng list' output by user ID (an optional argument for the -u option could do the trick).
   Of course, listing available tracepoints is automatically per-user when using a local session daemon.  But if you're a member of the 'tracing' group, you'll deal exclusively with the root daemon and won't have that choice.
> I didn't change the meaning of the original sentence. It just means that "lttng list" will output the events registered to the user's corresponding session daemon.
> Perhaps you can suggest a better phrasing?
>
> J?r?mie

   How about this?

Each user-space application instrumented with lttng-ust(3) will automatically
register with the root session daemon and its user session daemon. This allows
each daemon to list the available traceable applications and tracepoints at
any given moment (See the \fBlist\fP command).

(There is no need to explain further the diff between the two daemons since the preceding paragraph in the man page already talks about co-existing session daemons)

Daniel U. Thibault
Protection des syst?mes et contremesures (PSC) | Systems Protection & Countermeasures (SPC)
Cyber s?curit? pour les missions essentielles (CME) | Mission Critical Cyber Security (MCCS)
R & D pour la d?fense Canada - Valcartier (RDDC Valcartier) | Defence R&D Canada - Valcartier (DRDC Valcartier)
2459 route de la Bravoure
Qu?bec QC  G3J 1X5
CANADA
Vox : (418) 844-4000 x4245
Fax : (418) 844-4538
NAC : 918V QSDJ<http://www.travelgis.com/map.asp?addr=918V%20QSDJ> <http://www.travelgis.com/map.asp?addr=918V%20QSDJ>
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<http://www.valcartier.drdc-rddc.gc.ca/>
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* [lttng-dev] [PATCH lttng-tools] Fix: Some corrections to the lttng man page
  2013-11-05 21:34   ` Thibault, Daniel
@ 2013-11-06  1:25     ` Jérémie Galarneau
  2014-02-03 16:05       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Jérémie Galarneau @ 2013-11-06  1:25 UTC (permalink / raw)


On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Thibault, Daniel <
Daniel.Thibault at drdc-rddc.gc.ca> wrote:

>  *De :* jeremie.galarneau at gmail.com
> *Envoy? :* 5 novembre 2013 15:51
>
>  On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Thibault, Daniel <
> Daniel.Thibault at drdc-rddc.gc.ca> wrote:
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 12:08:47 -0400
> From: J?r?mie Galarneau <jeremie.galarneau@efficios.com>
>
> > diff --git a/doc/man/lttng.1 b/doc/man/lttng.1
> > [...]
>
> > +All user-space applications instrumented with lttng-ust(3) will
> > automatically register to the session daemon. This feature gives you the
> > ability to list available traceable applications and tracepoints on a
> per user
> > basis. (See \fBlist\fP command).
>
>    Is this a statement of intent?  LTTng 2.3.0's list command identifies
> user-space events by trace provider name, event name, and process ID, but
> not by user ID (in fact it doesn't even yet filter the kernel events out
> when one asks for 'list -u session'; see bug #654).  And there is as yet no
> way to filter the 'lttng list' output by user ID (an optional argument for
> the -u option could do the trick).
>
>     Of course, listing available tracepoints is automatically per-user
> when using a local session daemon.  But if you're a member of the
> 'tracing' group, you'll deal exclusively with the root daemon and won't
> have that choice.
>
>  > I didn't change the meaning of the original sentence. It just means
> that "lttng list" will output the events registered to the user's
> corresponding session daemon.
>
> > Perhaps you can suggest a better phrasing?
>
> >
>
> > J?r?mie
>
>
>
>    How about this?
>
>
>
> Each user-space application instrumented with lttng-ust(3) will
> automatically
>
> register with the root session daemon and its user session daemon. This
> allows
>
> each daemon to list the available traceable applications and tracepoints
> at
>
> any given moment (See the \fBlist\fP command).
>
>
>

Looks good to me.

Cheers,
J?r?mie


>  (There is no need to explain further the diff between the two daemons
> since the preceding paragraph in the man page already talks about
> co-existing session daemons)
>
>
>
> Daniel U. Thibault
> Protection des syst?mes et contremesures (PSC) | Systems Protection &
> Countermeasures (SPC)
> Cyber s?curit? pour les missions essentielles (CME) | Mission Critical
> Cyber Security (MCCS)
> R & D pour la d?fense Canada - Valcartier (RDDC Valcartier) | Defence R&D
> Canada - Valcartier (DRDC Valcartier)
> 2459 route de la Bravoure
> Qu?bec QC  G3J 1X5
> CANADA
> Vox : (418) 844-4000 x4245
> Fax : (418) 844-4538
> NAC : 918V QSDJ <http://www.travelgis.com/map.asp?addr=918V%20QSDJ> <*http://www.travelgis.com/map.asp?addr=918V%20QSDJ
> <http://www.travelgis.com/map.asp?addr=918V%20QSDJ>*>
> Gouvernement du Canada | Government of Canada
> <http://www.valcartier.drdc-rddc.gc.ca/>
>



-- 
J?r?mie Galarneau
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com
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* [lttng-dev] [PATCH lttng-tools] Fix: Some corrections to the lttng man page
  2013-11-06  1:25     ` Jérémie Galarneau
@ 2014-02-03 16:05       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Mathieu Desnoyers @ 2014-02-03 16:05 UTC (permalink / raw)


Perhaps someone should open a bug report to track this, or submit a patch ? 

Thanks, 

Mathieu 

----- Original Message -----

> From: "J?r?mie Galarneau" <jeremie.galarneau@efficios.com>
> To: "Daniel Thibault" <Daniel.Thibault at drdc-rddc.gc.ca>
> Cc: lttng-dev at lists.lttng.org
> Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2013 8:25:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [lttng-dev] [PATCH lttng-tools] Fix: Some corrections to the
> lttng man page

> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Thibault, Daniel <
> Daniel.Thibault at drdc-rddc.gc.ca > wrote:

> > De : jeremie.galarneau at gmail.com
> 
> > Envoy? : 5 novembre 2013 15:51
> 

> > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Thibault, Daniel <
> > Daniel.Thibault at drdc-rddc.gc.ca > wrote:
> 

> > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > 
> 
> > > Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 12:08:47 -0400
> > 
> 
> > > From: J?r?mie Galarneau < jeremie.galarneau@efficios.com >
> > 
> 

> > > > diff --git a/doc/man/lttng.1 b/doc/man/lttng.1
> > 
> 
> > > > [...]
> > 
> 

> > > > +All user-space applications instrumented with lttng-ust(3) will
> > 
> 
> > > > automatically register to the session daemon. This feature gives you
> > > > the
> > 
> 
> > > > ability to list available traceable applications and tracepoints on a
> > > > per
> > > > user
> > 
> 
> > > > basis. (See \fBlist\fP command).
> > 
> 

> > > Is this a statement of intent? LTTng 2.3.0's list command identifies
> > > user-space events by trace provider name, event name, and process ID, but
> > > not by user ID (in fact it doesn't even yet filter the kernel events out
> > > when one asks for 'list -u session'; see bug #654). And there is as yet
> > > no
> > > way to filter the 'lttng list' output by user ID (an optional argument
> > > for
> > > the -u option could do the trick).
> > 
> 
> > > Of course, listing available tracepoints is automatically per-user when
> > > using
> > > a local session daemon. But if you're a member of the 'tracing' group,
> > > you'll deal exclusively with the root daemon and won't have that choice.
> > 
> 
> > > I didn't change the meaning of the original sentence. It just means that
> > > "lttng list" will output the events registered to the user's
> > > corresponding
> > > session daemon.
> 

> > > Perhaps you can suggest a better phrasing?
> 

> > >
> 

> > > J?r?mie
> 

> > How about this?
> 

> > Each user-space application instrumented with lttng-ust(3) will
> > automatically
> 

> > register with the root session daemon and its user session daemon. This
> > allows
> 

> > each daemon to list the available traceable applications and tracepoints at
> 

> > any given moment (See the \fBlist\fP command).
> 

> Looks good to me.

> Cheers,
> J?r?mie

> > (There is no need to explain further the diff between the two daemons since
> > the preceding paragraph in the man page already talks about co-existing
> > session daemons)
> 

> > Daniel U. Thibault
> 
> > Protection des syst?mes et contremesures (PSC) | Systems Protection &
> > Countermeasures (SPC)
> 
> > Cyber s?curit? pour les missions essentielles (CME) | Mission Critical
> > Cyber
> > Security (MCCS)
> 
> > R & D pour la d?fense Canada - Valcartier (RDDC Valcartier) | Defence R&D
> > Canada - Valcartier (DRDC Valcartier)
> 
> > 2459 route de la Bravoure
> 
> > Qu?bec QC G3J 1X5
> 
> > CANADA
> 
> > Vox : (418) 844-4000 x4245
> 
> > Fax : (418) 844-4538
> 
> > NAC : 918V QSDJ < http://www.travelgis.com/map.asp?addr=918V%20QSDJ >
> 
> > Gouvernement du Canada | Government of Canada
> 
> > < http://www.valcartier.drdc-rddc.gc.ca/ >
> 

> --
> J?r?mie Galarneau
> EfficiOS Inc.
> http://www.efficios.com

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-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers 
EfficiOS Inc. 
http://www.efficios.com 
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