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From: mingo@elte.hu (Ingo Molnar)
Subject: [ltt-dev] [patch 7/9] LTTng instrumentation - kernel
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:40:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090325084054.GB11217@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200903251143.12472.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>


* Rusty Russell <rusty at rustcorp.com.au> wrote:

> On Wednesday 25 March 2009 05:03:13 Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > 
> > (Rusty Cc:-ed - for the module.c tracepoints below)
> 
> Thanks, tho they look fine and non-intrusive to me.

Thanks - i'll take this as an Acked-by :-)

( Mathieu, mind re-sending a variant that does them via
  TRACE_EVENT(), against the tracing tree? That makes it useful not 
  just to LTTng but the default mainline kernel as well. Thanks! )

> > I believe that to have a complete picture of module usage, module 
> > refcount get/put events should be included as well, beyond the basic 
> > load/free events.
> > 
> > These both have performance impact (a module get/put in a fastpath 
> > hurts scalability), and are informative in terms of establishing the 
> > module dependency graph.
> 
> A module_get()/put() should not hurt scalability at all!  I went 
> to great and horrible lengths to ensure that was the case since 
> the rewrite in 2.4.

i know, it uses percpu refcounts :) Still it can be somewhat 
non-trivial in a fastpath:

static inline int try_module_get(struct module *module)
{
        int ret = 1;

        if (module) {
                unsigned int cpu = get_cpu();
                if (likely(module_is_live(module)))
                        local_inc(__module_ref_addr(module, cpu));
                else
                        ret = 0;
                put_cpu();
        }
        return ret;
}

So we want to reduce excessive uses of it.

[ And please forget i mentioned scalability - that bit is fine and 
  you were offended rightfully :) ]

This reminds me. Couldnt we now:

 #ifdef CONFIG_SMP
         char *refptr;
 #else
         local_t ref;
 #endif

... unify these bits to just standardize on a per-cpu refptr all the 
time, with Tejun's ueber-cool percpu changes in place?

> But a module dependency graph et. al. would be kind of cool.

Yeah. Can be in a separate patch as well - load/unload events are 
meaningful in isolation as well.

	Ingo




  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-25  8:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-24 15:56 [ltt-dev] [patch 0/9] LTTng core kernel instrumentation Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 15:56 ` [ltt-dev] [patch 1/9] IRQ handle prepare for instrumentation Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 15:56   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 15:56   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 15:56 ` [ltt-dev] [patch 2/9] LTTng instrumentation - irq Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 15:56   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 15:56   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 17:33   ` Jason Baron
2009-03-24 17:50     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 17:57       ` Jason Baron
2009-03-24 19:12         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 20:11           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 20:51             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-25  8:47               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-25 18:30                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-25  2:00             ` Steven Rostedt
2009-03-26 18:27               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-27 22:53                 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-02  2:42                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-25  2:09             ` Steven Rostedt
2009-03-26 18:28               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-27 19:18           ` Jason Baron
2009-03-24 19:14   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-27 22:12   ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-03-24 15:56 ` [ltt-dev] [patch 3/9] LTTng instrumentation tasklets Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 15:56   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 15:56   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 17:56   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-25 13:52     ` Chetan.Loke
2009-03-25 14:17       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-25 17:37         ` Chetan.Loke
2009-03-25 17:52           ` Steven Rostedt
2009-03-24 15:56 ` [ltt-dev] [patch 4/9] LTTng instrumentation softirq Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 15:56   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 15:56   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 18:01   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 15:56 ` [ltt-dev] [patch 5/9] LTTng instrumentation scheduler fix task migration Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 15:56   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 15:56   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 17:53   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 15:56 ` [ltt-dev] [patch 6/9] LTTng instrumentation - timer Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 15:56   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 15:56   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 18:21   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 19:14     ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-03-24 20:47       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-27 22:05         ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-03-24 15:56 ` [ltt-dev] [patch 7/9] LTTng instrumentation - kernel Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 15:56   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 15:56   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 18:33   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-25  1:13     ` Rusty Russell
2009-03-25  8:40       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-03-25 13:06     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-03-24 15:56 ` [ltt-dev] [patch 8/9] LTTng instrumentation - filemap Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 15:56   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 15:56   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 18:39   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-24 15:56 ` [ltt-dev] [patch 9/9] LTTng instrumentation - swap Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 15:56   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 15:56   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-03-24 18:51   ` Ingo Molnar

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