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From: Daniel Berlin <dan@www.cgsoftware.com>
To: <Hilfinger@cs.berkeley.edu>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@is.elta.co.il>, <gdb@sources.redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Cast to a struct in expressions
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 11:30:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0104281421250.19482-100000@www.cgsoftware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200104280912.CAA09949@tully.CS.Berkeley.EDU>

On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, Paul Hilfinger wrote:

>
>  > > > I'm still missing something, because I don't see how "*(struct foo *)x"
>  > > > differs from "*(struct {long foo; unsigned bar;} *)x".  Both are valid
>  > > > C expression syntax, so the parser should be able to parse them both.
>  > >
>  > > No, they aren't both *expressions*, only one is.
>  > > One is a statement/declaration, and the other is an expression.
>  >
>  > I'm not a C language expert, but my references seem to disagree with
>  > you.
>
> Correct; both are expressions, or you couldn't write
>
>   long z = (*(struct {long foo; unsigned bar;} *)x).foo;

Except, I tried to compile this with a few c compilers, and it didn't
work.
Only gcc seems to accept it.

>
> whereas, in fact, you can.
>
> Of course, the semantics of
>
>   *(struct {long foo; unsigned bar;} *)x
>
> is officially undefined, since, contrary to the fond beliefs of many C
> programmers, the Standard only occasionally gives meaning to
> dereferences of a cast of a pointer value to a different pointer type
> (the anonymous type in the expression above necessarily differs from
> that of x).


> Therefore, GDB is not completely out of line in refusing
> to recognize this, even if the reason it gives is maybe a little off.

not "completely" out of line?
It's not a c compiler.
It doesn't pretend to be.
I can't even get a lot of c compilers to recognize the expression.
how could gdb be in any way out of line in refusing it, considering it's
just a debugger?

C also says that

given
int a[5];

4[a] == a[4]

We don't allow you to type "print 4[a] = 3", but we do allow "print a[4] =
3".

Is this out of line?

> Paul Hilfinger
>


  reply	other threads:[~2001-04-28 11:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-04-27  1:10 Eli Zaretskii
2001-04-27  8:24 ` Daniel Berlin
2001-04-27 10:41   ` Eli Zaretskii
2001-04-27 12:30     ` Daniel Berlin
2001-04-28  1:08       ` Eli Zaretskii
2001-04-28  2:12         ` Paul Hilfinger
2001-04-28 11:30           ` Daniel Berlin [this message]
2001-04-28 11:09         ` Daniel Berlin
2001-04-28 23:47           ` Eli Zaretskii
2001-04-28 23:52             ` Daniel Berlin
2001-04-29  0:20               ` Eli Zaretskii

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