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From: jtc@redback.com (J.T. Conklin)
To: Fernando Nasser <fnasser@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Cagney <ac131313@cygnus.com>,
	GDB Discussion <gdb@sources.redhat.com>
Subject: Re: gdb/remote - I/O
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 12:56:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5md7apvm4c.fsf@jtc.redback.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3ACE0E6B.CF3C9A2B@redhat.com>

>>>>> "Fernando" == Fernando Nasser <fnasser@redhat.com> writes:
Fernando> We do have two different kinds of output coming from the
Fernando> target: output produced by the os/monitor/stub or whatever
Fernando> we are talking to and the output from the application
Fernando> (little bit of semi-hosting).
Fernando>
Fernando> Fortunately for us, they happen at different times.  When
Fernando> the program is running (after run or step) the output can be
Fernando> assumed to be from the program and should go to gdb_stdtarg.
Fernando> When the program is not running the output can only be from
Fernando> the controlling software, and we can send it to gdb_stdout.

I've been thinking about the proposed changes to the remote protocol
since they were first brought up.  I've been trying to come to terms
with an issue myself before I put it up for discussion in a coherent
manner, but since I'm not making much progress on my own I thought I'd
better better share what I've got.

Question: Does the remote protocol support systems where other threads
continue to execute when one being debugged is halted.  This is a hard
question to answer, since the existing implementation of both GDB and
the debug agents (stubs, gdbserver, and I suppose libremote (although
I've never seen it)) assume the target completely stops.  But does the
protocol itself allow this?  From what I can tell, it can.  If it does
not, it almost does --- especially when you consider how loosely some 
of the commands are defined.

The proposals wrt. I/O seem to require the target to halt for I/O,
which precludes enhancing GDB and the debug agents to take full
advantage of the remote protocol.  I ask whether or not this is 
desirable?

        --jtc

-- 
J.T. Conklin
RedBack Networks


  reply	other threads:[~2001-04-06 12:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-03-23 15:36 Andrew Cagney
2001-03-29 16:27 ` Mark Salter
     [not found]   ` <3ABF9077.DFC22AE7@cygnus.com>
     [not found]     ` <200103261954.f2QJsBg15093@deneb.localdomain>
     [not found]       ` <3ABFA8D1.DA0D2EAE@redhat.com>
     [not found]         ` <3AC0C9DF.CB1BC2D9@cygnus.com>
2001-03-29 16:27           ` Fernando Nasser
2001-03-29 16:27             ` Andrew Cagney
2001-03-29 23:10         ` Todd Whitesel
2001-03-30  9:23           ` Andrew Cagney
     [not found] ` <5mhf0fov3q.fsf@jtc.redback.com>
2001-03-30  9:48   ` Andrew Cagney
2001-04-06 11:28 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-04-06 11:47   ` Fernando Nasser
2001-04-06 12:56     ` J.T. Conklin [this message]
2001-04-07 16:02       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2001-04-09 10:43         ` J.T. Conklin
2001-05-14  8:55 ` Andrew Cagney

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