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From: Andrew Cagney <ac131313@cygnus.com>
To: Todd Whitesel <toddpw@best.com>
Cc: msalter@redhat.com, gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: gdb/remote - I/O
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:23:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3AC4C124.9CF81823@cygnus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200103300709.XAA28219@shell17.ba.best.com>

Todd Whitesel wrote:

> I prefer the implementation where target I/O is treated like a general
> syscall request, which always blocks on the host. After all, it's really
> for debugging and bootstrapping, not production -- and you gain a lot of
> flexibility by doing it this way.

syscall?  Ah, you're thinking of UNIX :-)

> On the target, a syscall acts just like a breakpoint except that some
> extra "I'm a syscall!" information is sent up too. For example, the
> syscall number and the first three argument registers, which covers
> all of your basic syscalls.

> The target then just sits and waits to be manipulated with register/memory
> commands, and eventually gets a command sequence telling it to write the
> return register and 'errno flag' register and to continue.
> 
> On the host, a target that stops on a syscall gets processed through logic
> which feels somewhat like the "should we continue stepping or not?" paths
> in The Code Formerly Known As WaitForInferior. The host translates the
> syscall to native bit-flags and such and attempts to execute it, including
> simulated I/O (you need some minimal buffering here, nothing complicated).

I was waiting for someone to head down that path :-)

While a ``really cool feature'' I think, like the other proposal to make
things truely bi-directional it is getting away from the current
protocol's principal objective - to be as simple as possible.

I don't think a ``syscall'' mechanism would need any protocol changes
(just a minor reimplementation of GDB's target stack ;-)  I'd expect
something like a new target layer that would set a breakpoint on
syscall() and then intercept any thread-stopped event for that
breakpoint.  The layer would then manipulate the target and resume it.

I think the emphasis here should be on identifying just sufficient
functionality to provide the primative console.  Mark's point about the
target not having a break mechanism is the key - my original proposal
was flawed since it assume that GDB could directly interrupt the target.

	Andrew


  reply	other threads:[~2001-03-30  9:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-03-23 15:36 Andrew Cagney
2001-03-29 16:27 ` Mark Salter
     [not found]   ` <3ABF9077.DFC22AE7@cygnus.com>
     [not found]     ` <200103261954.f2QJsBg15093@deneb.localdomain>
     [not found]       ` <3ABFA8D1.DA0D2EAE@redhat.com>
     [not found]         ` <3AC0C9DF.CB1BC2D9@cygnus.com>
2001-03-29 16:27           ` Fernando Nasser
2001-03-29 16:27             ` Andrew Cagney
2001-03-29 23:10         ` Todd Whitesel
2001-03-30  9:23           ` Andrew Cagney [this message]
     [not found] ` <5mhf0fov3q.fsf@jtc.redback.com>
2001-03-30  9:48   ` Andrew Cagney
2001-04-06 11:28 ` Andrew Cagney
2001-04-06 11:47   ` Fernando Nasser
2001-04-06 12:56     ` J.T. Conklin
2001-04-07 16:02       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2001-04-09 10:43         ` J.T. Conklin
2001-05-14  8:55 ` Andrew Cagney

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