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From: Daniel Berlin <dberlin@dberlin.org>
To: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@mvista.com>
Cc: Andrew Cagney <ac131313@ges.redhat.com>,
	David Carlton <carlton@math.stanford.edu>,
	gdb <gdb@sources.redhat.com>
Subject: Re: struct environment
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 21:51:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55FB82EE-CAC2-11D6-9548-000393575BCC@dberlin.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020917203446.GA30594@nevyn.them.org>


On Tuesday, September 17, 2002, at 04:34  PM, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 03:52:33PM -0400, Daniel Berlin wrote:
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 17, 2002, at 02:02  PM, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 01:54:07PM -0400, Andrew Cagney wrote:
>>>>> Well, sort of.  It won't be a DAG necessarily (I think that mutual
>>>>>>> "using" statements are legal in C++; I remember a GCC bug 
>>>>>>> involving
>>>>>>> them was fixed not long ago), and it will be somewhat complicated
>>>>>>> figuring out which ones to look up (namespace links are different
>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>> block scope links).
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't forget that GDB doesn't need to model the language.  Just 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> namespace behavior at a given PC.  The effect of "using" would be 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> just grow a nametab in someway.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is legal C++:
>>>>>
>>>>> namespace D {}
>>>>>
>>>>> namespace C {
>>>>> using namespace D;
>>>>> int x, y;
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> namespace D {
>>>>> using namespace C;
>>>>> int x, z;
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> If using just grew a nametab we'd get into a great deal of trouble.
>>>>
>>>> Depends on how you grow it :-)  Something like (assuming a real
>>>> language
>>>> :-):
>>>> 	D:
>>>> 	0: x, z
>>>> 	1: x, y (from C)
>>>> 	2: ...
>>>
>>> How you intend to do this efficiently I don't know.  Remember that C
>>> uses D in turn, and that things "using"'d into D will therefore be
>>> visible in C.
>>
>> These types of problems are exactly why i said a lot of thought needs
>> to be put into the design of the underlying structures, rather than
>> just copying what we have because we have it.
>> It's hard to call it "overengineered" if how to do lookups efficiently
>> with large numbers of names in namespaces hasn't been considered.
>> It's not really something you can bolt on later.
>> Hasn't this been proven by the fact that it hasn't been bolted on yet?
>
> Absolutely.  But I've always thought that we'd still do it via
> searching a succession of blocks, with some sort of global structure
> for figuring out where to look; which means that at this point it's
> been designed far enough.  I could be wrong :)

This might be the case.
I'm just trying to make sure it *has* been considered.
I'm not saying it actually requires any changes to the proposed way of 
doing things.

In legal terms, i'm raising the objection to preserve it for a possible 
later appeal.
:)

--Dan


  reply	other threads:[~2002-09-18  4:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-05 13:50 David Carlton
2002-09-06  8:06 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-09-06 10:20   ` David Carlton
2002-09-06 10:57     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-09-06 11:56       ` David Carlton
2002-09-06 12:34         ` Daniel Berlin
2002-09-06 12:41           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-09-06 12:55             ` Daniel Berlin
2002-09-11 11:33         ` David Carlton
2002-09-11 11:36           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-09-11 12:27             ` David Carlton
2002-09-06 14:43   ` David Carlton
2002-09-06 14:46     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-09-06 14:57       ` mdebugread.c (was Re: struct environment) David Carlton
2002-09-06 15:35         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-09-10 17:25   ` struct environment David Carlton
2002-09-10 17:31     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-09-11 10:29       ` David Carlton
2002-09-11 10:55         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-09-11 12:33         ` Daniel Berlin
2002-09-10 17:36     ` David Carlton
2002-09-16 22:03   ` Andrew Cagney
2002-09-06 15:00 ` David Carlton
2002-09-06 16:37   ` Tom Tromey
2002-09-06 17:19     ` David Carlton
2002-09-07 10:26       ` Per Bothner
2002-09-07 10:32         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-09-09 11:18           ` David Carlton
2002-09-12 12:26 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-09-13  9:44   ` David Carlton
2002-09-17  0:48 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-09-17  6:41   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-09-17  8:59     ` Andrew Cagney
2002-09-17  9:07       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-09-17 10:54         ` Andrew Cagney
2002-09-17 11:02           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-09-17 12:37             ` Andrew Cagney
2002-09-17 12:41               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-09-18  8:13                 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-09-17 12:52             ` Daniel Berlin
2002-09-17 13:34               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-09-17 21:51                 ` Daniel Berlin [this message]
2002-09-18  7:26                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-09-18  9:08                   ` David Carlton
2002-09-17 12:18     ` David Carlton
2002-09-17 10:29   ` David Carlton
2002-09-17 12:50     ` Daniel Berlin
2002-09-17 13:24       ` David Carlton
2002-09-18 22:26 ` Eli Zaretskii

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