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From: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Haley <aph@redhat.com>
Cc: Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl>,
	        Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com>,
	gcc@gcc.gnu.org,         libc-alpha@sources.redhat.com,
	gdb@sourceware.org,         Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Unwinding CFI gcc practice of assumed `same value' regs
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:39:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <457ECD2F.9050700@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17790.51754.814267.773596@zebedee.pink>

Andrew Haley wrote:
> Sure it does.  Not breaking things is an excellent reason, probably
> one of the the best reasons you can have.

Nothing breaks if the responsible tools are updated in unison.


> Really?  Well, that's one interpretation.  I don't believe that,
> though.  It's certainly an inconsistency in the specification, which
> says that null-termination is supported, and this implies that you
> can't put a zero in there.

Again, this is just because the "authors" of the ABI didn't think.  x86 
has the same problem.  ebp is freely used and not just for non-NULL 
values.  Register's a scarce and I doubt  you'll find any support 
introducing a register class which says that the register can only hold 
non-zero value.


> "All of these" might be the right way to go.  That is, keep
> null-terminating the stack, strengthen the rules about what you might
> do with %ebp, and extend debuginfo.

The thread setup and the startup code certainly does initialize the 
register with zero.  But this means nothing, the register can have zero 
values in all kinds of other places.

-- 
➧ Ulrich Drepper ➧ Red Hat, Inc. ➧ 444 Castro St ➧ Mountain View, CA ❖


  reply	other threads:[~2006-12-12 15:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-11 19:03 Jan Kratochvil
2006-12-11 22:40 ` Roland McGrath
2006-12-12 15:54   ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-12-12 13:55 ` Andrew Haley
2006-12-12 14:55   ` Mark Kettenis
2006-12-12 15:04     ` Andrew Haley
2006-12-12 15:21       ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-12-12 15:26         ` Andrew Haley
2006-12-12 15:39           ` Ulrich Drepper [this message]
2006-12-13 18:11             ` Michael Matz
2006-12-12 15:50           ` Jan Kratochvil
2006-12-12 16:19           ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-12-12 16:55       ` Ian Lance Taylor
2006-12-12 17:06         ` Andrew Haley
2006-12-12 17:34           ` Mark Kettenis
2006-12-13 18:02           ` Michael Matz
2006-12-13 18:10 ` Michael Matz

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