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From: "Mark Kettenis" <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl>
To: "Andrew Haley" <aph@redhat.com>
Cc: "Jan Kratochvil" <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com>,
	gcc@gcc.gnu.org,         libc-alpha@sources.redhat.com,
	gdb@sourceware.org,         "Jakub Jelinek" <jakub@redhat.com>,
	        "Richard Henderson" <rth@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Unwinding CFI gcc practice of assumed `same value' regs
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:55:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <22844.82.92.89.47.1165935102.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17790.46246.634400.638852@zebedee.pink>

>  Jan Kratochvil writes:
>
>   > currently (on x86_64) the gdb backtrace does not properly stop at
>   > the outermost frame:
>   >
>   > #3  0x00000036ddb0610a in start_thread () from
>  /lib64/tls/libpthread.so.0
>   > #4  0x00000036dd0c68c3 in clone () from /lib64/tls/libc.so.6
>   > #5  0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
>   >
>   > Currently it relies only on clearing %rbp (0x0000000000000000 above is
>   > unrelated to it, it got read from uninitialized memory).
>
>  That's how it's defined to work: %rbp is zero.
>
>   > http://sourceware.org/ml/gdb/2004-08/msg00060.html suggests frame
>   > pointer 0x0 should be enough for a debugger not finding CFI to stop
>   > unwinding, still it is a heuristic.
>
>  Not by my understanding it isn't.  It's set up by the runtime system,
>  and 0 (i.e. NULL on x86-64) marks the end of the stack.  Officially.
>
>  See page 28, AMD64 ABI Draft 0.98 \u2013 September 27, 2006 -- 9:24.

Unfortunately whoever wrote that down didn't think it through.  In
Figure 3.4 on page 20, %rbp is listed as "callee-saved register;
optionally used as frame pointer".  So %rbp can be used for anything, as
long as you save its contents and restore it before you return.  Since it
may be used for anything, it may contain 0 at any point in the middle of
the call stack.  So it is unusable as a stack trace termination condition.
The only viable option is explicitly marking it as such in the CFI.

Initializing %rbp to 0 in the outermost frame is sort of pointless on amd64.


  reply	other threads:[~2006-12-12 14:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-11 19:03 Jan Kratochvil
2006-12-11 22:40 ` Roland McGrath
2006-12-12 15:54   ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-12-12 13:55 ` Andrew Haley
2006-12-12 14:55   ` Mark Kettenis [this message]
2006-12-12 15:04     ` Andrew Haley
2006-12-12 15:21       ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-12-12 15:26         ` Andrew Haley
2006-12-12 15:39           ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-12-13 18:11             ` Michael Matz
2006-12-12 15:50           ` Jan Kratochvil
2006-12-12 16:19           ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-12-12 16:55       ` Ian Lance Taylor
2006-12-12 17:06         ` Andrew Haley
2006-12-12 17:34           ` Mark Kettenis
2006-12-13 18:02           ` Michael Matz
2006-12-13 18:10 ` Michael Matz

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